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"Father, forgive them for they know not what they do!&q

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 9:11 pm
by Virginia
A church I pass by everyday had a different "message" on its marque about once a week. You need to read this until it hits you!!!!
""God created humans - in His own image - He created both male and female!"
Virginia

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 1:08 pm
by Celia
Biblical Freudian slip? :mrgreen:

-Celia

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 9:46 pm
by Jeannie
I don't want to offend anyone but think of Jesus if that who you believe in. He is always depicted with long hair,blue eyes and very in touch with his feelings. He had love for all,great compassion and understanding. He was non violent and had enormous empathy. Doesn't sound like most men I know........ Who knows? We will all find out one way or another someday. In the mean time love who you are. We're not bad just different like HIM.
Unfortunately look what happened to him. They had the warmest most loving person anyone could ever imagine and he was nailed to a cross. Life really never changes. Too bad.

Love
Jeannie

Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 4:44 am
by Pauline
Hi all...

i'm not relegious but have had an relegious background forced upon.

"God created man in his own image"

Man, shortend from mankind i.e. both male and female.

"God" is supposed to be a supier being. if so and from that statement above then does thoes who are both male and female the supier beings?

Adam and Eve...
First there was Adam and then Eve who had two sons Cane (or Cain) and Able (Abel) (not sure about the spellings)..

Ok.. now where did the son's get their children from? There is only one possible logical answer.. and it involves Incest.

On a non-religious question

The universe is always expanding and there is nothing out there but the universe (both which have been confirmed by the big wig scientists).. here's my question.. what does the universe expand into?

Bit like which came first.. the chicken or the egg..lol

Pauline @->->-

Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 7:29 pm
by Elizabeth
Pauline,
Pauline wrote:
The universe is always expanding and there is nothing out there but the universe (both which have been confirmed by the big wig scientists).. here's my question.. what does the universe expand into?
The universe has been expanding at the speed of light since the "Big Bang". But it does not just expand on the perimeter. Actually, the universe is expanding everywhere. The distance between everything is getting bigger.

Try this experiment. Get a balloon and a sharpie. Put a bunch of dots all over the balloon, then blow it up. As you will see, the distance between every dot will get farther apart. Now if you imagine the balloon was filled with similar dots, you would get an idea of how our universe expands.

The other thing is that the universe has what is called an "event horizon". That means we can only see the universe that the light has reached us. Anything that is farther away then it's light could have reached us yet, is beyond our knowledge.

The universe may be vastly larger than even we think it is. We are not far from having telescopes in space that can see this event horizon, which is getting father away everyday. Think of the epanding universe as you would think of a bubble of air getting bigger under water. The difference being, the rules of our universe only apply to the universe, there is no way to ever know what is outside our universe, just as we can not know what happened before the "Big Bang".


Here is a link to an artical from the University of Toronto's Physics department that is easy to understand and contains no math.

http://www.upscale.utoronto.ca/GeneralI ... Model.html

Love always,
Elizabeth

Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 8:13 pm
by Pauline
Elizabeth.

when you expand the balloon it expands because there is an atmophere to expand into, the expanding universe has no such atmosphere to expand into.

For something to expand it has to expand into something no matter the direction. As i stated before what is the universe expanding into??? as there is nothing out there but the expanding universe.

Yes i know since the big bang that the universe has always been expanding but lets take it back right from that big bang.. it went bang and started to expand but what into??

Pauline @->->-

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 11:50 pm
by Nick
Pauline wrote: Adam and Eve...
First there was Adam and then Eve who had two sons Cane (or Cain) and Able (Abel) (not sure about the spellings)..

Ok.. now where did the son's get their children from? There is only one possible logical answer.. and it involves Incest.
Read Genesis 1:27. It will answer your question for you.

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 5:39 am
by Pauline
Nick

Is that within the first 11 chapters of the Book of Genesis? because of this passage from http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0, ... 32,00.html

But the first 11 chapters of Genesis, in which two different and at times conflicting stories of creation are told, are among those that this country’s Catholic bishops insist cannot be “historical”. At most, they say, they may contain “historical traces”.

Another thing I have come to realise in my humblest opinon is that these "miracles" are just advanced technology and not "miracles of god". If we took today’s technology back to cave men and cured the sick or killed with a gun... we would be seen as gods and be performing miracles over life and death. Earthquakes, floods, plagues can be created with today’s technology, therefore the ones stated in the bible are only advanced technology & who brought the technology? Only a advanced civilisation which could or was not human - these angels of superior intelligence the bible has kept acknowledged are they aliens? and if so then these sightings are them keeping tabs on this undeveloped technological race until we are technologically and acceptable enough for contact.

Pauline @->->-

Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 2:30 am
by Elizabeth
Hi girls,


Pauline,
Pauline wrote:
For something to expand it has to expand into something no matter the direction. As i stated before what is the universe expanding into??? as there is nothing out there but the expanding universe.
The fabric through which things travel through space, is time. There was thought to be a substance in space that was thought to be the medium through which light traveled in space, It was called aether however, Michelson and Morley proved there was no such substance when they tried to measure the speed of light both in the direction of the earth spin and against it's spin. Also on the direction of earths orbit around the sun and against it. If there was a substance that light waves traveled through, the light would take longer to return when turned agaist spin and travese around the sun. This turned out not to be the case.
Here is a link to thier experiment

http://galileoandeinstein.physics.virgi ... mexpt6.htm


One of the postulates that makes up the Theory of Special Reletivity is that light propigates at the same speed c for all inertial frames. This is how Einstein figured out that it was time that actually changes, not the speed of light. So space became spacetime. And spacetime is what light propigates through and everything else. As far as we know, there is literally nothing outside our universe. Our universe expands into nothing.


Love always,
Elizabeth

Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 7:29 am
by DonnaT