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Jennifer wrote:Let's not forget that there are those out there that think all of us should be incarcerated as perverts, a danger to society and morally corrupt. Remember the KKK?
Jenn
Hi Jenn,
From someone who still live in an area of our country where the KKK is only as far away as the closet where the sheets are hanging, I do remember them. I know a few and I can tell you their attitude is that we should not be allowed to continue to exist on their planet. Actually, their attitude is that not too many others other than them should be allowed to continue to exist. I have great concern for my own safety when I hear those three letters mentioned. I have seen enough of it that I feel strongly that legal eradication might be the only answer.
Sorry to sound so strong about that but those people scare me for obvious reasons as do the ones who killed that teenager.
"The early bird catches the worm...But... It's the second mouse that gets the cheese"
Jamie Ann wrote: As I understand this situation, a 17-year-old TG named Gwen Araujo met two 24-year-old men, Jose Merel and Michael Magidson, during the summer of 2002. Evidently, there was intimate contact, although not of a kind that would make it clear that Gwen was a TG rather than a GG. In talking among themselves later, the men wondered if Gwen might possibly be a genetic male. At least two full months later, in October, 2002, the two men, together with two other men and a woman, lured Gwen to a private home where they “ ... punched, slapped, choked, [beat] with a skillet, and [put] a rope ... around the teenager’s neck.”
At the trial, the defendants claimed that they’d had a “panic attack” when they realized that Gwen was genetically male, and that their “panic attack” was the cause of their actions. In my opinion, those men committed first-degree murder. They lured Gwen to a home fully two months after the original incidents, and they arranged to have friends there to help them in a physical attack on Gwen. This was not a spur-of-the-moment reaction, panicky or otherwise. It was a premeditated killing. It was planned in advance and carried out deliberately. I hope the jury convicts Jose Merel and Michael Magidson of first-degree murder and gives them the most severe penalty the law allows (life in prison or whatever).
Ah, ok.
Sorry Jamie Ann for misunderstanding. Thanks for clearing it up.
That is so sad. Some parent had to hear the last moments of their child's life ended that way.
No, I could never "forgive and forget" as I was the victim of an attack once and have had to live with all the horror of its aftermath ever since. I should be able to "be" who I want to be as long as I'm not harming or hurting anyone else. I do take full responsibility for the "reckless" behavior I did concededly exhibit that night, but in the end it doesn't excuse what happened to me either. And I feel the same for any GG who wants to go out for the evening and has to be subjected to the constant leering and ogling all too many men exhibit...I feel strongly about this and will never get over the fact that these attacks will continue and continue...
I've read this entire thread and have a few comments to make...been a member for a few weeks but have rarely posted as I find the posts to be generally quite informative and feel my "two cents worth" will fall far short of the mark. But I do feel strongly about this area. I essentially agree with those who feel "we" shouldn't take any untoward chances, though the temptation is certainly there to try. I've gone out en femme only once and went to a club where I just wanted to fit in and enjoy myself, and even there for the first time I felt uncomfortable with some of the activity that went on. Our interests and CDing are magnets for certain pathetic, degenerate types and although we should be able to live as we want, we can't ever forget the dangers that lurk around us. I don't mean to be alarmist, it's just a fact of our lives. I don't know what went on with Lizzy B, but I'd suspect that her experience isn't all that unusual when one "crosses" the line if you will. None of my friends know of my CDing nor have I ever given them reason to suspect it. But I just know I'm "different" from them in how I look at and relate to women. For instance, after a game of basketball or softball, some of us may go to a bar for a couple of beers. All I hear from them is negative comments about their wives and women in general and they'll spend the time looking at the waitresses or other women and making comments about them. It makes me feel uncomfortable and when I tell them to lay off, they stop for a bit only to start up again. Maybe it's the CDing that has made me much more attuned to women's sensibilities, but dressed that night while out I truly felt I knew what a woman goes through in such situations...sorry for the ramble, but please girls, be sensible and don't put yourselves in a situation for which you'll be sorry.
