Since I have been here I have been totally supportive of your moderating. In fact I have PM'd you on several occasions to thank you for doing a thankless job.
You're welcome Elizabeth
For me this is not a question of whether or not you are a good moderator. You know I think you are. Do I think there is favoritism? At times I certainly do. Perhaps you don't feel that way, and maybe it's all in my head, but I do feel that certain people are allowed to act in a manner not consistant with the rules of this forum.
I apologize if it sounded like I was asking about if I'm good or not. The point of this thread was to talk about removing posts that are flames. I feel almost everyone who has chimed in, by a majority told me they trust my actions as you said you had before.
But it is more than that. I am not looking to see if someone followed the letter of the rules and is in a grey area. I have made it very clear that I would like to see the mission of this Forum stated as being about support. Not about trying to spread some political ideology that never changes anyone's mind.
This is not going to happen Elizabeth.
The top of the page says it all, "Welcome to the Crossdressers-Forum, A friendly place for all" and it also says "A place to talk about crossdressing for CD's, SO's, Friends and Family. That's all the statement stuff we're going to do. No one is trying to persuade anyone else. Those who engage in debates are usually trying to say their idea/point is better. I think it was said several times in the Soup Kitchen thread what you're trying to do is change forum member's minds. Like I said earlier in this thread it's all the way you view your own actions as a forum member. Everyone thinks they are right and each has a really good argument that is the case. Those who oppose those ideas think they have the perfect rebuttal. John Thomas disease on both counts.
I am not saying there is not room for politcal or religious discussion, I think it should be limited to personal experience. For instance, if you are not permitted to use a women's restroom that would be permitted, but if your City passed a law banning such use, that would not be permitted. You get asked to leave church for being in female attire? That is permitted, however discussion of how some national church was voting to ban such things would not.
I'm sorry again, but I don't see how that relates to the forum other than your idea of what you feel the forum should be. I respect what you'd like it to be sweetie, but it's going to be whatever it wants, but it will not digress from the two statements I quoted above.
I have watched since before the American elections as this political chat started. I have been against it every step of the of way. And I predicted what it would lead to, and it has.
Cool I wasn't alone.
I have seen no benifit from it, other than to satisfy the needs of a few people to debate. It has not helped anyone heal. It has not advanced the cause of crossdressing. What is has done is led to lots of hard feelings, and many members leaving. I guess I just need someone to show me what benifit this forum gets from it, that makes it worth the cost.
The benefit is someone gets to speak their mind. Now we have a place called Mordor where people can have these discussions.
I have talked to several of the SO's, some of whom have left, and they told me it is nothing more than men doing what they always do. Mindless arguing and competing or subjects that none of them have any control over.
That's odd. I've talked to them too and they support change and don't have a good bye forever attitude, but more of an I'll be back when things tone down and some who are gone for ever. Hopefully they will change their minds and come back when I go back to removing flames.
This is not about moderating, when I came here it was rare to see the moderator have to ever take any action. People were nice. They did not try to pick apart what others were saying. They did not look for what was wrong with a post, they looked for what was right about it. There was not an attitude about being right at all cost. There was an attitude that we can each have our own view and still support each other in a loving and caring way.
When there were less people, yes it was easier to moderate. However I guess you didn't know about the time I had to beg Shannon and Sharon not to shut the forum down because of the bickering. It was days away from being shut down. This kind of upsetness happens in phases and almost every forum I've been a part of.
It is disingenuous to come here and offend someone on a politcai thread and think you are going to be able to offer support later. Perhaps those who think this debate is so important should spend the $10 a month, and the $14 to register a domain and start up "Crosserdressers-Politiical-Debate-Forum" and let everyone who is interessted in it go there. I mean if their feelings are so strong about it's importance to the civil rights of crossdressers, let them back that up with the effort to support such a cause. As opposed to hijacking this forum.
The forum is not being hijacked in my opinion. More people don't mind about these kinds of discussions that those who do. It's just that everyone feels everyone could be more polite to each other regardless of the kind of debate.
I really love this place, there is no equal. But I would rather leave than to feel the anger and upset that I have had to feel watching it dissinigrate into the continual arguing, backbiting, and picking at each other that it has become. The status quo is not good enough for me. I really do want the rules followed, and the negativity to be stopped. I would like to see it stated that the mission of this forum is support, not political and religious discussions.
We love you and are happy to have you stay. The forum isn't disintegrating it's changing and evolving. I kind of already said before that these kinds of discussions have happened over and over. You remember when you went through the spell where your home life made it to the forum? We were all here for you, but some of the things you said to others were really not kind and everyone forgave you and we moved on and grew together. The forum didn't change though. We've had tens of thousands of posts since then. It's all subjective for me. I didn't understand what you meant by the status quo statement though?
If you'd like to see the negativity stopped stick around. The mission is stated and it is a support forum. I don't think anyone thinks it's not a support forum. We've taken steps to isolate the topics you talked about in Mordor. If you were a member of Mordor I would have moved your Soup Kitchen thread there. That was a mistake by me not to.
For those of you who I have offended or hurt, I would like to extend my deepest and most sincere apology. I can't excuse myself for that, but I can say that it was only my heart felt emotions for this place that drove my emotions.
That's the Elizabeth that I like the mostest.
I would love nothing more than to stay in this wonderful place, but I can't if it is to stay the way it has been lately. It just makes me feel bad to come here and see what it has become. So I guess I will just lurk for a while and see if any real change comes about. There is nothing more for me to say. Everyone knows how I feel.
I'd be sad to see you go, but if you're not happy here please lurk around and see if you think things change? The forum hasn't become anything more than it's ever been. I've heard how bad the forum is getting after 3 months of being here and it continues a year and a half later.
Love always,
Elizabeth
Love you too
Beauty