Thanks Carolynn,
I agree that the girls here do tend to force us to look inside ourselves and in a lot of instances, they do bring me to tears, usually, tears of joy, for them and for having found this island of support. I am just awed by girls like you who can produce such information in such a beautiful way.
Thank you for being there,
Love,
Virginia
What Is Love?
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Sally
- We Will Never Forget You - Rest in Peace
- Posts: 630
- Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2004 1:33 am
- Location: N.S.W. Australia
what is love
Love is not an emotion per se but of course feeling love involves our emotions.
Feelings are something very individual and personal and nobody can experience our feelings and also what anybody else says cannot make what we feel unreal. What we feel and how we express those feelings and what we think and putting our heart into that thinking, is to me what true love is.
When I look at my wife from across the room I feel emotions which involve my love for her but when I hold her in my arms my heart also tells me there is a physical love for her also. To me emotional love and physical love are different even if the two are intertwined. I know it can sometimes be difficult to separate the two and it's easy to confuse the two as it's so difficult to know that exact line where one ends and the other begins. There is no defined boundary between the two. Emotions are every bit as real as any physical feelings thereby clouding the issue at times
For me, when I look at her my expression of love for her not only involves my brain feelings but my love for her also involves how I'm thinking through my heart. I believe we not only think through our brain but we also think through our heart and it's necessary to marry the two. When we successfully marry the two then we begin to learn what true virtue and true love really is. Brain based thinking alone can never achieve this for us. Thinking is not something we do just in our heads, thinking involves every part of our body and some things which take place in our brain actually stem from other systems within our body.
I find that to express my love to my wife comes very easy if I not only tell her how and what I'm feeling but when I involve my heart in those thoughts very few words are needed.
Kind Regards,
Sally.
Feelings are something very individual and personal and nobody can experience our feelings and also what anybody else says cannot make what we feel unreal. What we feel and how we express those feelings and what we think and putting our heart into that thinking, is to me what true love is.
When I look at my wife from across the room I feel emotions which involve my love for her but when I hold her in my arms my heart also tells me there is a physical love for her also. To me emotional love and physical love are different even if the two are intertwined. I know it can sometimes be difficult to separate the two and it's easy to confuse the two as it's so difficult to know that exact line where one ends and the other begins. There is no defined boundary between the two. Emotions are every bit as real as any physical feelings thereby clouding the issue at times
For me, when I look at her my expression of love for her not only involves my brain feelings but my love for her also involves how I'm thinking through my heart. I believe we not only think through our brain but we also think through our heart and it's necessary to marry the two. When we successfully marry the two then we begin to learn what true virtue and true love really is. Brain based thinking alone can never achieve this for us. Thinking is not something we do just in our heads, thinking involves every part of our body and some things which take place in our brain actually stem from other systems within our body.
I find that to express my love to my wife comes very easy if I not only tell her how and what I'm feeling but when I involve my heart in those thoughts very few words are needed.
Kind Regards,
Sally.
Watch nature, because it’s our greatest teacher, it moves and flows and moves on again. We can never be free until we disengage, so allow life to flow as you find it. The way it is, is the way it is.
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Kersten Lee
- Miss Platinum Goddess
- Posts: 386
- Joined: Sun Feb 29, 2004 10:05 am
- Location: Central Nebraska
Hi,
I have not read all these yet, but promise to read all of you.
Many of you know of my mirriad of problems and issues, internal and external. Over the years, I have tried to tell my wife of thirty years that I loved her. I could not do it because I did not believe in love. I thought a lot of the time that hell did not exist below the earth as in mythology but on the earth. She could tell, I could not tell her truthfully. Yet she has stayed and nurtured me and hurt me.
Things always had to be a 100% for me. Obviously I fell short of my own requirements and requirements for all others. A therapist who "loves her work" and all of you have showed me spirituality, friendship, caring, kindness and "love". I now can love myself (Kersten or Rich). Whatever I am, I am OK.
For a year now I have told my wife a very few times that I loved her. She believed me. Lately I have needed more of her and felt betrayed. Now that I have known love, I can be hurt by it's absense. My wife and I have been on a knife's edge. This past two weeks, I feel as if we are falling into the side of love. I want us to continue falling.
I feel the same at times here. The Bible definition for me is now too very restrictive. I feel it puts me where I came from in my perceived hell. The 100% requirement I held over my head and all others made love impossible to attain. I now believe and feel that to be love, love does not have to fit a tight list of necessities. Just like for crossdresser, a definition is necessary for communication. What ever the definition is, it will never fit us all.
I love to live in women's attire and can tolerate men's dungarees. It is much better for me to dress when I can and to love all of you, as you all have loved me, by words, caring, kindness and general support through the good and bad of this life.
Thank-you CJ for your love and support and the chance to respond.
Love and Hugs,
Kersten
I have not read all these yet, but promise to read all of you.
Many of you know of my mirriad of problems and issues, internal and external. Over the years, I have tried to tell my wife of thirty years that I loved her. I could not do it because I did not believe in love. I thought a lot of the time that hell did not exist below the earth as in mythology but on the earth. She could tell, I could not tell her truthfully. Yet she has stayed and nurtured me and hurt me.
Things always had to be a 100% for me. Obviously I fell short of my own requirements and requirements for all others. A therapist who "loves her work" and all of you have showed me spirituality, friendship, caring, kindness and "love". I now can love myself (Kersten or Rich). Whatever I am, I am OK.
For a year now I have told my wife a very few times that I loved her. She believed me. Lately I have needed more of her and felt betrayed. Now that I have known love, I can be hurt by it's absense. My wife and I have been on a knife's edge. This past two weeks, I feel as if we are falling into the side of love. I want us to continue falling.
I feel the same at times here. The Bible definition for me is now too very restrictive. I feel it puts me where I came from in my perceived hell. The 100% requirement I held over my head and all others made love impossible to attain. I now believe and feel that to be love, love does not have to fit a tight list of necessities. Just like for crossdresser, a definition is necessary for communication. What ever the definition is, it will never fit us all.
I love to live in women's attire and can tolerate men's dungarees. It is much better for me to dress when I can and to love all of you, as you all have loved me, by words, caring, kindness and general support through the good and bad of this life.
Thank-you CJ for your love and support and the chance to respond.
Love and Hugs,
Kersten
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CJ
- Miss Diamond Goddess
- Posts: 3562
- Joined: Sun Nov 02, 2003 11:12 pm
- Location: Montreal, Quebec, Canada
Hi all,
You're welcome, Kersten.
These are all great replies. Thanks, all.
Robert Frost, in The Death Of The Hired Man, once wrote:
Home is the place where, when you have to go there,
They have to take you in.
In the same way, I'd say love is like home. It won't turn you away if and when you need it.
Love,
CJ
You're welcome, Kersten.
These are all great replies. Thanks, all.Robert Frost, in The Death Of The Hired Man, once wrote:
Home is the place where, when you have to go there,
They have to take you in.
In the same way, I'd say love is like home. It won't turn you away if and when you need it.
Love,
CJ
