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perplexed by the weather?

Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 5:28 am
by Susan
I woke up to -15C 5F this morning and I live close to the coast where the sea temperature is 9C 48F

Here is a nice set from NASA which helps explain something I think has been largely ignored by the Climate Change lobby.

http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/paleo/slides/s ... index.html

Global Warming seems a long way away at this time

Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 7:39 am
by DonnaT

Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 8:31 am
by Susan
Donna,

an interesting graph, it shows that prior to the Miocene era (about 10 million years ago) average temperatures where higher than they are now by between 2 and 6 degrees Celsius for hundreds of millions of years.

We hit an all time low temperature last night just across the river from us. About a mile away in a straight line. -17.5C - 1F. This weather station is right on the coast and the sea temperature is 9C. Unusually cold.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-12031709

Re: perplexed by the weather?

Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 8:47 am
by Kittie
I live 20 miles from Susan and completely agree. Some of our weather is tide-based even where I live 20 miles inland.

Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 12:19 pm
by Davita
The weather doesn't perplex me, the weather people do. They other problem is the silly stores. One day they roast your tushies off and another they can't seem to get it warm.

never quite sure what to wear for the winter when the weather changes just a bit more than the stores do.

Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 2:19 pm
by Theresa_W
I used to work at a television station, and the chief meteorologist used to love to say; "I love my job....It's the only job where you can be 50% right, 90% of the time.....and still keep my job!!!!"

I think that just about sums it up for weathermen in my book! LOL

Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 4:16 pm
by Andrea Elise
I just read a statement that the UK just wasn't prepared for the ice and snow that is occurring there. Airports not allowing landings, motorists stranded.

Stay warm, Susan and Kittie!

Andrea

Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 5:14 pm
by Pat
In Southern Australia (Victoria), Two days ago I was sitting in my backyard sun-baking.
Today it is pretty cold and in the high country (Mt Hotham) they had snow and this is when we are usually starting to swelter with Summer heat.
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Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 3:28 am
by Paula G
It's just a shame there was no rain in Perth for the test match :(

No the UK is not prepared for this level of snow in November / December, there is a good reason for this, it is totally unpresidented and totally unexpected. I have some sympathy for the Authorities who have been caught out, since my own business is suffering badely. I have several jobs in the book, but I simply can't get on with them because of the weather, unless anyone knows how to use mortar in sub zero temperatures......

Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 9:40 am
by Absaroka
It's always tempting to say well it's colder or hotter here so the world is cooling or warming. However climate change and weather fluctuations are two vastly different things. The overall trend is towards warming at a (geologically speaking) very rapid pace. The fact that the Earth was warmer back when humans were not around is not comforting.

Humanity could probably adapt to a world that was overall warmer by several degrees except for one thing, and that is the fact that our usual response to difficulties is military conflict. And even without that problem, the economic dislocation might be unpleasant. Here in the US for example we don't think about the fact that the midwest is the breadbasket for the country and a signifigant source of trade. A change in climate might move the breadbasket north, say to Canada, and I suspect we would find we did not like the resulting economic changes at all. We'd propbably like the effect of similar changes in China, Pakistan, and India even less since they have nukes, hate each other, and would probably be very happy to solve their problems by attacking each other.

I guess we will all get to see what happens, since humanities ability to implement long terrm solutions that cost money is very limited. Maybe all the global warming folks, including me, will be wrong, which would certainly be nice.

Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 9:46 am
by Paula G
Yep! Climate and weather are different things

Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 3:58 pm
by Susan
some nice pictures of the big freeze. The human statues are right across the river from me.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-12048171

Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 6:48 pm
by DonnaT
I thought y'all got snow, Susan. Heck, they got 13 feet of snow in California :P

Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 11:48 pm
by KimberlyS
It's beginning to look like Christmas, every where we are ........

Enjoy the snow.

Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 6:48 am
by Susan
Ours is finally thawing but there is a battle going on between a warm moist southerly wind and the freezing cold land. This will mean more snow at the start only to turn to rain. My sympathy to everyone on the US East coast which is having a nasty time of it with blizzards at this time