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women with higher testosterone happier

Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 9:47 am
by Carolynn
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According to this study, women with higher testosterone are happier when living alone, with less need for a partner.....and are satisfied with self pleasure....

Who'd a thunk it? #-o

Re: women with higher testosterone happier

Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 10:09 am
by Karin
Oh my! :shock:

This kinda makes sense tho really. I know all the women rugby players at the university I went to were all very much I.dividuals of the go it alone variety, and since I started hrt my testosterone is one sixth of what it was..duri.g which time, I'm more people driven and clingy. I was a loner before?

Hmm. Interestink! #-o

Re: women with higher testosterone happier

Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 9:23 pm
by Carolynn
You under a doctors care on the hrt? It's imprtant to be so if you are not.

Re: women with higher testosterone happier

Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 9:55 pm
by Anita
I don't know what to make of the finding that it seems to make no difference in men. Higher testosterone levels equal higher drive, period. Yeah, maybe high-testosterone men seek out a lot of partners, but you're not always going to be with a willing partner, no matter who you are. Maybe high-T guys just lie on their survey sheets!

I seem to remember that if men had low testosterone levels, adding some would help their energy levels. Men with normal levels, though, did not get a boost from adding more.

As for the women--that's an interesting effect. I've been in long-term relationships with two women that might have had high T levels. All I can say to that is: Be careful what you wish for. They had drive, and it wasn't always easy to keep up with them.

Re: women with higher testosterone happier

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 11:41 am
by Karin
Carolynn wrote:You under a doctors care on the hrt? It's imprtant to be so if you are not.
Guity :oops: I self administer my hrt, but have recently been to the doctors about it and declared things. They took a bloodtest to check things out. It's a good job I did this though, cos they found that I am diabetic. I'm currently being studied, poked and prodded and tested constantly. It's not the best situation as I'm learning how far advanced things are just now, but the upside is I now have and to have very regular bloodtests kidney and liver function testing, feet inspections and eye examinations. It's pretty comprehensive and they will now keep an eye on testosterone levels too :). Currently 1.2 mmol. Where normally it would be in the region of 7.

I agree having a doctor becomes more essential the futher into it you get. The hardest part being the first time you tell them...but its well worth it ! ^^_||

Re: women with higher testosterone happier

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 5:13 pm
by Anthony Simon
I don't know if this is relevant, but...

There's a chain of shops for CDs here called "Transformation".They also have an website and a mail-order catalogue. When you get the catalogue, right at the beginning there are pages of hormones that they sell to you just like that (advertising breast growth amongst other things). Whenever I've had the catalogue I've alway hated that. The London shop is the same - a cabinet full of hormones right when you come in. Before you get to clothes, wigs etc, you have hormones.

I put it to one of the staff there that they were essentially encouraging customers to mess with their bodies. You could see she felt awkward about this (this was a couple of years ago) but said they were only responding to customers demands.

If you're under a doctor's care and all that, that one thing. But to be encouraged to go into a shop and just buy hormones like that, I just feel that's really irresponsible.

Full disclosure, I used to do lights for a student band in the 70s and everyone dig drugs to some extent. I would never have done it if it wasn't the social thing.

Re: women with higher testosterone happier

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 5:51 pm
by Karin
That's a really good point anthony and actually I agree with you totally. The other thing of course is that kind of stuff is usually herbs and such, they may have limited effects, but are usually sold as an 'amazing' solution that they don't really deliver...results may vary? HRT to me is estrogens, blockers such as spiro and maybe progesterones are all prescription items, so they're not allowed to sell those in that manner? It's one thing to encourage, and another to sell goods that aren't really the real macoy as it were. I had to research an awful lot, and look closely to actually begin a program of HRT.
And back to the original issue, I'm fourteen months or so into it, and it really does cause a shift in psychology... For me I'm far more mellow and tolerant. Not as hyper as when I had a male level of testosterone hahaha

Re: women with higher testosterone happier

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 6:03 pm
by Latanya
im on estrogen for ten weeks now only a trial run
was in the herbs and dont feel they did anything
but for me the estrogen has done the opposite of Karins experience so far
i am much more sensitive to issues and much more feisty then he ever was.
more out there and provocative and so far i like it! if i continue past 12 weeks i am going to se a dr. but i feel that after three month i am going to go off do not want the physical changes to be permanent!

Re: women with higher testosterone happier

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 9:21 pm
by Carolynn
Karin wrote:
Carolynn wrote:You under a doctors care on the hrt? It's imprtant to be so if you are not.
Guity :oops: I self administer my hrt, but have recently been to the doctors about it and declared things. They took a bloodtest to check things out. It's a good job I did this though, cos they found that I am diabetic.

I agree having a doctor becomes more essential the futher into it you get. The hardest part being the first time you tell them...but its well worth it ! ^^_||
I find it interesting you were on estrogen and learned you were diabetic. There is increasing evidence that TG folks who are prone to diabites often show symptoms after 6 months or so of being on estrogen. Still not an official study, by my endo is starting to wonder if this is a side effect in diabetes prone folks. Thats one of the things that may make DIY estrogen dangerous, in addition to the blood clots and other vascular problems. Anyone "playing or experimenting" DIY with E, don't do it. HRT is not a recreational drug.

I was on estrogen for 7 months when I was diagnosed, but then I have a number of risk factors (overweight, native american heritage, diabetes in the family, in my 60's). You do want to take care of yourself, do some lifestyle changes in your food consumption, as there are a number of nasty complications. Make sure you exercise regularly too.

Carolynn

Re: women with higher testosterone happier

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 5:38 am
by Anthony Simon
Karin wrote:That's a really good point anthony and actually I agree with you totally. The other thing of course is that kind of stuff is usually herbs and such, they may have limited effects, but are usually sold as an 'amazing' solution that they don't really deliver...results may vary? HRT to me is estrogens, blockers such as spiro and maybe progesterones are all prescription items, so they're not allowed to sell those in that manner? It's one thing to encourage, and another to sell goods that aren't really the real macoy as it were. I had to research an awful lot, and look closely to actually begin a program of HRT.
Well, there's two issues - the encouraging people to buy stuff to change their bodies without recourse to medical advice, and the overstating of the effects of the stuff that's actually being sold. I'm sure Transformation do the second. I mean their whole thing is to encourage any guy to believe he can transform himself into passable women just by buying their stuff - which is just not true.

But much more important to me is that business of encouraging people to go "DIY". And it is a business to them. There is something very hard-sell about it. You know, if you’re thinking of changing your body, you want to go with people who care. These people don’t care.

Re: women with higher testosterone happier

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 6:44 pm
by Karin
Carolynn wrote: I find it interesting you were on estrogen and learned you were diabetic. There is increasing evidence that TG folks who are prone to diabites often show symptoms after 6 months or so of being on estrogen. Still not an official study, by my endo is starting to wonder if this is a side effect in diabetes prone folks. Thats one of the things that may make DIY estrogen dangerous, in addition to the blood clots and other vascular problems. Anyone "playing or experimenting" DIY with E, don't do it. HRT is not a recreational drug.

I was on estrogen for 7 months when I was diagnosed, but then I have a number of risk factors (overweight, native american heritage, diabetes in the family, in my 60's). You do want to take care of yourself, do some lifestyle changes in your food consumption, as there are a number of nasty complications. Make sure you exercise regularly too.

Carolynn
Hi Carolynn ^^_||

Naturally, this is something that makes me wonder too. I asked my diabetic specialist if any of my meds can enhance the chances of becoming diabetic. The answer was no. I said there's a lot of MTF TG that develop type two for some reason. Then after thinking she said well, estrogen can raise the sugars, spiro can dehydrate, and progesterones are hormones which can throw things out of whack too. Two nurses have discussed this and decided it may have a minimal effect, but isn't the root cause. I will add tho, I'm not really overweight, the specialist said I don't look like a type two at all, it doesn't run in my family either, but I do smoke, and have had a sweet tooth my whole life. This is why I'm wondering if it's caused by my HRT. The concept that my being TG could be as a result of being diabetic fascinates me and I'd love to learn more about these studies.

As it stands, the specialist thinks I'm type one, but my type two meds appear to be getting levels down very well, so I'm thinking I'm type two?