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Carol Ann
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My heart goes out to all our fallen hero's

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Amen to that. May the surviving families continue to make peace with it, as years go by.
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I thought about it carefully, and I have to conclude I am still very angry that so few people would choose to bring so much misery and death to so many. I wondered if the death of bin Ladin would change any of that, but it really changes nothing in terms of the anger. With such an event, there can never be any such thing as justice in this life. -,,-

I felt the same anger when Timothy McVey bombed the Murrah Building in OKC on April 19, 1995, and his execution really did not change any of it. I still feel grief for my two friends that lost their lives there too, and for the death of the little kids in the day care center. But I also cherish that another friend survived because he was running late getting to the meeting in the building on that day (he stopped for 2 dozen doughnuts from Krispy Kreme....he has a sweet tooth you know.).

As far as the effects of 9/11, cancer from inhalation of the construction materials pulverized by the bomb and the fall of the buildings continue to add to the tradgedy as would be rescuers succumb. Where will it end? What does one do with the anger when the perps are all dead? If they were somehow alive, what could you do to find justice for what they did? Do you take solace in the fact that bin Ladin and the actual perps are all dead? How does that balance the scales with so many lives lost and still dying? I think there is not balance so far as I am concerned. We just have to live with it.

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Carolynn wrote:I am still very angry that so few people would choose to bring so much misery and death to so many....With such an event, there can never be any such thing as justice in this life. -,,- ...What does one do with the anger when the perps are all dead?
Dunno. FWIW My feeling is these people are bitter little ****s whose essential thought is "I hate myself, I hate the world and everyone in it. I'm going to die and take as many people with me as possible."

On the one hand this means all the people who actually died on 911. But, on the other hand, there are the people who survived it, weren't even there. For many people, their lives have been affected in one way or another - just by the dread of another similar event happening to them or their families or friends. This is quite a predictable result of what the bombers did. And, given my view of them as bitter little ****s, one I'm sure they planned in advance and enjoyed the thought of.

Even if the bombers had not died in the planes, I don't believe that the anger they released by their actions could have been resolved by "bringing them to justice". I don't believe a sort of psychic "balance" could have been achieved like that. I suspect, somewhere, they knew just how unjust and unfair what they were doing was. But, being bitter, they really liked that. The more unjust and unfair the better, from their point of view - because they wanted to absolutely maximize the emotional damage as well as the physical damage they were doing. This would be the other way of "taking as many people with me as possible".

Whether, somewhere inside them, they wanted people to be stuck with anger, I don't know. But it would fit.
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I still think about the sight of it all happening. Whatever must drive people to commit such horrific acts? And what a terrifying position to be in, to be in one of the towers when the planes struck! We can not bring them to justice, because they are dead, so that must be our justice, I suppose.

Did they not even consider the backlash against their own people (albeit mostly in our minds); the Muslims still alive after their actions? I'm sure we all regard Muslims with some suspicion following their acts, an for that matter, the actions of all Muslim suicide bombers!

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The death of Bin laden did not help, or the thought that the terrorists died, the anger stays on. The consolation has to be that we will all face true justice in time, until then our anger does no harm to anyone except ourselves, revenge is not a solution the only solution is to forgive. Forgiveness does not mean that it is OK, that it does not matter, or even pretend that it did not happen, no it means accepting the hurt, acknowledging the loss, indeed even seeking justice, but forgiving in our own hearts.

Not easy but it does work.
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