Thought this was an interesting article:
http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtm ... EnoughNews
marketing to men?
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Virginia
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Thanks Aeryn. It is interesting and who is responsible for this confusion among the male population??? Could it be?__________ 
? I won't even go there. Fortunately, Virginia is not confused and neither are a lot of my sisters here 
, but it is and will be interesting to see how all this "uncertainity" for our "brethren" turns out!
Virginia
? I won't even go there. Fortunately, Virginia is not confused and neither are a lot of my sisters here , but it is and will be interesting to see how all this "uncertainity" for our "brethren" turns out!Virginia
First star to the right, then straight on 'till mornin!
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Aeryn, Virginia--
It's interesting to me that the consequences of "stepping out of line" as a man still seem just as severe as they ever were. I think the survey is showing what men might like to do, but not what they're willing to acknowledge to other men. So the confusion will still reign.
Example: one of my friends was a stay-at-home dad while his wife worked as a lawyer for the Clinton administration. He has good self-esteem, but he said he got no "strokes" from anyone. The other stay-at-homes around him were all women, and they didn't know what to do with him. Career and power are everything in Washington, D.C., and the male lawyers who worked with his wife didn't know what to do with him, either. His world was very different from theirs!
They certainly weren't saying, "I wish I could do that, too," but if this survey is correct, almost half of the men he knew might have felt that.
But they all want someone else to go first--and MANY "someone else"s at that. One role model like my friend is not enough to change public perception.
I think it may be the same for what we do, too. This desire is so deeply buried in most men that many don't even think about it. It seems impossible to realize, for one thing. I used to be one of them--I'd see a show where a guy had to dress in drag to solve some problem, and I'd be riveted to the TV screen. But I knew that it was impossible--I would look ugly and stupid, my friends and family would laugh and ridicule me, (or hate me), and...well, it just couldn't be. To find out that it COULD be was nothing short of miraculous.
Well, we are role models for each other, anyway. There are a lot more CDs venturing into the "next step" (whatever that may be for them), because they read about it here and elsewhere, and see that the sky doesn't fall in when someone else does it. Yay!
It's interesting to me that the consequences of "stepping out of line" as a man still seem just as severe as they ever were. I think the survey is showing what men might like to do, but not what they're willing to acknowledge to other men. So the confusion will still reign.
Example: one of my friends was a stay-at-home dad while his wife worked as a lawyer for the Clinton administration. He has good self-esteem, but he said he got no "strokes" from anyone. The other stay-at-homes around him were all women, and they didn't know what to do with him. Career and power are everything in Washington, D.C., and the male lawyers who worked with his wife didn't know what to do with him, either. His world was very different from theirs!
They certainly weren't saying, "I wish I could do that, too," but if this survey is correct, almost half of the men he knew might have felt that.
But they all want someone else to go first--and MANY "someone else"s at that. One role model like my friend is not enough to change public perception.
I think it may be the same for what we do, too. This desire is so deeply buried in most men that many don't even think about it. It seems impossible to realize, for one thing. I used to be one of them--I'd see a show where a guy had to dress in drag to solve some problem, and I'd be riveted to the TV screen. But I knew that it was impossible--I would look ugly and stupid, my friends and family would laugh and ridicule me, (or hate me), and...well, it just couldn't be. To find out that it COULD be was nothing short of miraculous.
Well, we are role models for each other, anyway. There are a lot more CDs venturing into the "next step" (whatever that may be for them), because they read about it here and elsewhere, and see that the sky doesn't fall in when someone else does it. Yay!