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building a storage shed

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 3:35 pm
by Lori
Hi All....Help

I am starting to build a storage shed 8x10 and need to know the angle of the truss at top for a 3 or 4 inch pitch....

Thanks
Lori

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 8:42 pm
by SilverLady(SO)
Not that anyone here would not have the correct answer for you . . . but have you tried to ask someone at your local lumber shop, or even Home Depot (the 'Orange' store) or Lowe's (the 'Blue' store) at their Contractor's Desk? Those stores usually have wood shed kits that are for sale, and as they all tout that their employees used to work in the trades prior to working at the Orange or Blue stores (and thus have 'real world experience'), one would presume that they *should* know the answer ('should' being the operative word, of course)!!

Good luck!!

- SL

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 9:05 pm
by Virginia
Yes, I have seen pre-made roof truss supports set a various angles depending on the pitch of the roof that you want. The less the angle the steeper the pitch and the potential for more overhead storage inside the building.
Good luck and might recommend, wear some good heavy gloves and keep your eye on the hammer, we don't want to break any nails. Oh and I would not recommend heels and a mini-skirt. Been there, done that. It takes forever for the bruises and cuts to go away!! :lol:
Virginia

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 10:16 pm
by Stephanie H
Lori:
Two differnt thoughts:
Use the attached link to Popular Mechanics for their supper shed. Show a technique for building the entire thing as well as the roof.
I stick built a 16x24 shed and followed their process except for the following:
The floor, I put block at 4 foot increments around the base and the floor joists. This gave me the stability that I was looking for to minimize the shift of the joist thus causing warp.
The roof, I put in a center stud 'gabled roof' vertically supported on both ends. For the joists/rafters, I set the angle a 31 degress where the roof joists joins the center beam. This gave me a 7 pitch roof that than gave me additional storage above the floor for off season storage.
http://www.popularmechanics.com/home_jo ... tml?page=1
Now, this second link will give you the geomety required to solve the problem. Even though the examples show a Hip roof, you should be able deduct the angle by following the instructions.
Remember, to allow for extension beyond the wall structure so that you can install soffets for air circulation and also install a roof vent the the length of the roof if you are planning on storing gas/oil etc in the structure.
For the floor besure to use
http://mathforum.org/library/drmath/view/60725.html

This give you some definitions that might also help
http://www.roofhelper.com/roof_parts.htm
Pitch: Also known as "slope", pitch is the measure of how "steep" a roof is. For example, if a roof is "4 in 12", the roof rises 4 inches for every horizontal run of 12 inches. The pitch of the roof is a big factor in determining the kinds of materials that can be used and the longevity of the roof. Usually, a steeper roof (higher pitch) will last longer due to its better drainage capabilities.

Hope both of the assist you

Whoa!

Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 1:06 am
by Jeannie
Hi girls
This discussion is way too butch for this reporter. I'm outta here! I'm going to do my nails!Hugs


Love
Jeannie

Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 1:11 am
by DonnaT
4 inch pitch
4/12=0.333
the inverse tangent of .333 = 18.43 Degrees
90 - 18.43 = 71.57 degrees

3 inch pitch
3/12 = 0.25
the inverse tnagent of .25 = 14.04 degrees
90 - 14.04 = 75.96 degrees

Of course, you'll want to set your miter saw to 18.5 degrees left of 90 degrees, when feeding the lumber from the left, for a 4" pitch; or
you'll want to set your miter saw to 14 degrees left of 90 degrees, when feeding the lumber from the left, for a 3" pitch

Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 8:31 am
by Carol Ann
WOW the things you can learn on this forum

Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 8:51 am
by Virginia
Holy Cow! what talent and I thought I was being helpful to tell her not to wear a mini-skirt.
Hey Jeannie, wait for me, we can get our nails done and then maybe a pedicure and then some heavy duty shopping, I understand Macy's is having a sale on "unmentionables!"
Love,
Virginia

Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 11:09 am
by Stephanie W
You just never know what topics will show up on this forum!
I am starting to build a storage shed 8x10 and need to know the angle of the truss at top for a 3 or 4 inch pitch....


Perhaps Lori, in asking her question, may have been aware that our Virginia has her own woodshed, so it would make sense that she (or SL) would have the most experience with these kinds of things. :P

Stephanie

building the shed

Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 12:51 pm
by Lori
Hey

Thanks for all the help...Lowes in my area has clerks dumber than me. No to work on the Golf game...Going to Myrtle Beach next week...made a fool out of myself before...

Hygs

Lori

Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 4:08 pm
by Karren Hutton
Mines a 12 x 18 New England Pole barn with a 12/12 roof.... One and a half stories. Neighbors call it a cabin. Took me 3 weeks to build and added a power nailer to my tool collection!!! Every new project deserves a new tool!!! hehe

Love Karren

Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 1:19 pm
by DonnaT
Just 9th grade trigonometry.

We just built one. I made the pitch higher that regulation. Hopefully no one will say anything. Plan on making a lift so I can raise the lawn mower up into the "attic" space. Heck, come to think of it, even I could use it as an elevator :-k .

Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 9:32 am
by KimberlyS
Virginia wrote:... Oh and I would not recommend heels and a mini-skirt. Virginia


I agree with Virginia if you are doing any type of ladder work. But for flat surface work a nice knee length or long jean skirt goes well with a tool belt and work boots.

But still keep the forms to a smaller size as they will get in the way of many tasks even when they are smaller.
Karren Hutton wrote:.... added a power nailer to my tool collection!!! Every new project deserves a new tool!!! Karren
I agree with you Karren. My wife even asks me along with estimates for Time and Costs, which new tools will I need for the project.

Karren, just be careful with that nailer and a long skirt that you do not nail yourself to something and keep your finger off of the trigger unless you are nailing. Never stand in front or under a person that is nailing. And keep your hands well away from your work as nails can make 90 degree turns.

KimberlyS-CD
Joe in a skirt

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 9:33 pm
by Stephanie H
Lori:
How is the shed doing.
Also enjoy the round of golf. I just finished up several weeks of warm up in the warm weather it it felt good.
Enjoy the weather and golf
Remember, work hard, play hard and shop wisely and often.