When is it time to so No?

MsJoann · Post by **MsJoann** » Wed Jul 29, 2009 9:19 am

Carol Ann...
It will never end. At 50, some days I look in the mirror after doing makeup and hat what I see. Yes, off comes the makeup!
As far as the actual dressing goes...I dress in women's clothing even at work. After work I get a bit more daring...even without makeup.
Both you and I need to look at the fashions that fit our age group. There is nothing more silly than ladies our age dressing as a 20 year old!

Michelle Miller · Post by **Michelle Miller** » Wed Jul 29, 2009 10:24 am

MsJoann wrote:There is nothing more silly than ladies our age dressing as a 20 year old!

See, that's what I can't stand, I mean, don't get me wrong, I've got nothing against a 'sister of the cloth' personally, but some girls just look downright silly, and it reflects on all of us, in a way. Someone sees one of us, poorly dressed like that out in public, looking like they just stepped off the hooker express into slutville, and they get that impression like we're all like that.

Merinda · Post by **Merinda** » Wed Jul 29, 2009 3:31 pm

Michelle Miller wrote:
MsJoann wrote:There is nothing more silly than ladies our age dressing as a 20 year old!
See, that's what I can't stand, I mean, don't get me wrong, I've got nothing against a 'sister of the cloth' personally, but some girls just look downright silly, and it reflects on all of us, in a way. Someone sees one of us, poorly dressed like that out in public, looking like they just stepped off the hooker express into slutville, and they get that impression like we're all like that.

I don't entirely agree with that ,

The earlier members of this forum remember my schooldress antics , because of my small petite size and young face I was able to dress in school uniform and walk the streets inconspicuously.
The members of this forum didn,t believe it was possible to pass in such attire at my age until I started posting the photo's.
Once I even walked past a group of REAL schoolgirls in a shopping centre and none of them blinked an eyelid at me , yep! in public I fooled them all for a very long time.

In the last 12-18 months I have caught up in looks and body mass , my problem is trying to make things work for me now , but I find that I look either silly or old , Carrol Ann and I have a similar problem.

Michelle Miller · Post by **Michelle Miller** » Wed Jul 29, 2009 5:56 pm

Of course, there's always exceptions to the rule, but IMO, there's a big difference between dressing like a schoolgirl when you can do it convincingly and someone looking like they're going to a taping of 'Plus Size Hookers at the Point'.

Elizabeth · Post by **Elizabeth** » Wed Jul 29, 2009 7:21 pm

Michelle Miller wrote: ...
but some girls just look downright silly, and it reflects on all of us, in a way. Someone sees one of us, poorly dressed like that out in public, looking like they just stepped off the hooker express into slutville, and they get that impression like we're all like that.

I really can't agree with this. People dress for all sorts of reasons and I don't find any particular person's reason any better or worse than my own. If someone wants to dress like they are 20, regardless of gender or gender presentation, it certainly does not reflect on me.

It's not up to me to decide what others should wear or to decide what is appropriate for someone to wear. If I make it my business, than I give a voice to all those who want to say whether or not what I do is appropriate. No, I simply do not agree that anyone has a voice in what I wear, including other transgendered people.

Having said that, I do dress age appropriate. But because it's what I want to do, not because I care what anyone else thinks. I mean when I see a GG that is dressed "too young" or "too slutty", I sometimes admire the person for wearing what they want and not caring. Not to mention, sometimes it looks good, even if inappropriate.

If it makes a person feel good to wear an ultra mini blue jeans skirt with stockings and garters showing with a crop top and 5 inch heals? I say go for it. Why not be happy? Everyone decides what is going to offend them. If people decide it's offensive? It's their problem, not ones own. Remember, anything that can be called "fashionable", was considered inappropriate at some time, or it will be.

Love always,
Elizabeth

Bernice · Post by **Bernice** » Wed Aug 12, 2009 11:53 pm

Well... I am on very thin ice because I am about to disagree with Elisabeth for perhaps the very first time.

I admire Stu Rasmussen, the Mayor of Silverton Oregon, for having the courage to openly cross-dress. However, I was pretty disappointed when Stu was called on the carpet for wearing a bathing suit top, mini skirt and 5" high heels to a meeting with "Silverton Together", a non-profit group that works with young people.

This controversy was not necessary. This made national news, and strengthened the stereotype of crossdressers as being people who intentionally dress outrageously. En Femme is not, and should never be, synonymous with "In Drag".

"Silverton Together" may be a "bunch of Harper Valley Hypocrites", but this was so, so avoidable.

But back to the thread: IMHO, it is not necessarily ever time to stop crossdressing.

Hugs,

Bernice

Post by **DonnaT** » Thu Aug 13, 2009 7:10 am

Although I see nothing wrong in what Stu wore, he wore it in the wrong place and at the wrong time. Even if there hadn't been a dress code.

Absaroka · Post by **Absaroka** » Thu Aug 13, 2009 8:40 am

I saw some pictures of him on the news. I agree with Donna, wrong place wrong time. If you are going to dress like a woman be aware of all the rules......this from a guy who regularly flaunts the guy rules.

Absaroka

Post by **KimberlyS** » Fri Aug 14, 2009 2:25 am

First I give great credit to someone who wears what they want to wear. But I must also say that some things really are not appropriate for some places. There can be a fine line at times between being an individual and being over the top. Elizabeth I like your example of a GG dressing over the top, too young or too slutty. As long as it looks good they can usually pull it off. The worst is usually called a tramp, slut, or similar. But IMHO if we as CDers do this and even if it looks decent we get thought of as freaks, perverts, dirty old men, and worse.

So while I agree us CDer should wear what we want and admire people for what they will wear out, I think we do need to think at times where we are going and aligning that a bit with what we wear. Because I sure know I push the envelope when I go out especially when in male mode wearing obvious feminine clothes. But in general I dress to blend, just on the higher end of the feminine range usually. Even when I go out as a guy wearing femme clothes they are ones that fit in with what the GG's are wearing. I keep my clubbing clothes for home wear, but it would be fun some time going to a club in them.

kim
joe in a skirt

Jennifer M · Post by **Jennifer M** » Sat Aug 15, 2009 9:26 pm

I have only been to one Cd'ing convention ever,it is an experience I will never forget.What hit home the hardest was seeing people 70 and 80 years old still crossdressing and just being themselves. It was then that I knew this will never go away and that I will be as is forever. I had and still do have mixed emotions about this. I guess the only thing any of us can do is just be the best that we can. I know,much easier said than done. Good luck to all of us.

Alana · Post by **Alana** » Thu Aug 20, 2009 2:19 am

I'm coming up on 60 this year and have been having similar thoughts. I fought this urge for so long that I missed out on dressing and going out while younger. I want to enjoy this ride for as long as possible, but don't know how much longer that may be.

My wife has sarcasticly asked me a few times if I intend to do this until I'm 80. I have no real answer for her. I reckon I'll continue to dress in some manner, as long as possible.

Alana

Dalindra · Post by **Dalindra** » Thu Aug 20, 2009 3:26 am

I just joined a few days ago so I just saw this thread.

I only at this point dress at home at night and now one time for my mom (I wanted her to judge what I wear and plan to do this over time with other outfits).

I try and dress classy and have no "hooker" kind of outfits though if I mixed them just right I could come up with something that was though I have no desire to do so. That isn't what I want out of CD'ing but to me it is all about what you personaly want out of it. I do not want to judge any one why should I? I do not want to be judged by others for what I am wearing.

Just my 2 cents on that

Dalindra · Post by **Dalindra** » Thu Aug 20, 2009 3:34 am

P.S.

Just read that last post after I sent it.

I said I want my mother to judge my outfits then said I didn't want to be judged by others.

What I ment was I respect my mom's opinion and want her to offer segestions as she will tell me what she really thinks and offer helpfull sugeations.

I do not want to me judged by strangers for CD'ing in any way I chose.

Sorry just felt I needed to clear that up.

PS we really need a spell checker cause I just cannot spell without one

Rony · Post by **Rony** » Thu Aug 20, 2009 8:19 am

Dalindra
If you have Google toolbar it has a spell checker.
Donna, put a post up on it I believe.

Rony

Stephanie H · Post by **Stephanie H** » Thu Aug 20, 2009 2:57 pm

Carol Ann:
When the going get tough, we go shopping. There is most likely something that would but the bounce back into your step. Remember, even I am getting older and have changed my makeup presentation, my hair and everything else. As with all girls it is a race to stay in contention with style and appearance.
Do not give up get yourself re-motivated.