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Gaby Romani wrote:Really, personally, a big part of the motivation I have to CD comes with thinking that I can look "good" for my own standards. But... having said that, I'm getting closer and closer to the time in which I know that I will not be able to look good enough, and in turn, that would take away lots of the motivation to CD. (Which has been something going for several years now.
Judging from your avatar, I'd say there's lots more prettiness in your future. But I know what you mean; as the relentless aging takes its toll, some of the buzz wears off. My feminine spirit and perception is pretty - that's why the mirror is always such a shock. So I struggle too.

I think one can only be satisfied with what I refer to as being an attractive human, someone who puts herself over well, and tune her awareness to expression of an integral part of our personnae. Those who "get" that will see it - kind of like the more you like someone, the more attractive they seem.
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My ex Mini told me I was pretty.

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Yeah! Pretty weird! What does she know. Her head is up in the clouds.... Well...... Something like that! Gotta go see a man about a dog! Hugs

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Reminds me of way back in 1976 when my wife commented on how I looked enfemme, including makeup and a wig.

I reckon the best compliment I ever got. She said, "I know we'll have a pretty daughter."
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Hi all,

Intriguing question, Absaroka. :-k

I'm not sure how to answer other than to say--as has already been said in this thread--I guess I feel beautiful on the inside and this has an impact on how I look at the world.

When you mention a "place of great natural beauty," it may very well be that this place has an "objective" beauty; nevertheless, it's very likely that those that haven't, or cannot, see their own inner beauty will not notice that one either. Natural surroundings (as well as another "attractive" aspect of nature: namely, other people) can be, and often are, mirrors to our own beauty.

The great power in seeing your own beauty stems from the fact that it allows you to see the beauty in others, even should that beauty be found in the ugliest environments. Also, beauty (or the seeing of it) can be contagious; if you see it in others, and aren't afraid of saying so, others will begin to see it in themselves as well, leading them to see it in others, and so on and so forth, regardless of the environment.

Now, I know, Absaroka, that you mean when we're alone, with no other people around, just the environment. I think what happens when you're standing in a place of great natural beauty, is that you're connecting with something that's both timeless as well as greater than your "small" self. It brings out the "greater" self in you, if you will. It's the beauty of this "greater" self, the one that operates beyond the daily toil and trouble our "small" self usually "moves" in, that can stun us with its beauty. The trick is to bring that sense of wonder at our own beauty back into the everyday world of time sheets, traffic jams, relationships, and actual silvered glass mirrors. It's very difficult to do so because we often "forget our ('greater') selves" in the daily grind, but it's certainly doable. Maybe it requires that we cultivate a poet's sensibility.

Walt Whitman:

I celebrate myself, and sing myself,
And what I assume you shall assume,
For every atom belonging to me as good belongs to you.

I loafe and invite my soul,
I lean and loafe at my ease observing a spear of summer grass.

My tongue, every atom of my blood, form'd from this soil, this air,
Born here of parents born here from parents the same, and their
parents the same,
I, now thirty-seven years old in perfect health begin,
Hoping to cease not till death.

Creeds and schools in abeyance,
Retiring back a while sufficed at what they are, but never forgotten,
I harbor for good or bad, I permit to speak at every hazard,
Nature without check with original energy.


(the first stanza of Whitman's Song of Myself, a very long poem)

When we "permit to speak at every hazard, Nature without check," it will tell us not only of its beauty but of our own. And it will do this even the though the (social) world human beings inhabit can sometimes be very ugly, indeed.

Yes, I consider myself beautiful.

Now, where did I put that mirror, again? :mrgreen:

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You're OK CJ!

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You always write beautifully and look the same way. :) Hugs

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PS I think you're in the running for moderator of the year. First price is a Porsce 911 turbo S. Can I have a ride when you win?Please!
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Uh, thanks, Jeannie, that's a great compliment, but I'd rather nominate the whole team of moderators here for the Mod Squad of the Year Award. 8)

Anyway, although the prize you suggest is cool, I'd have to get myself a driver's license--I've never had one.

Maybe a bouquet will do for the wonderful people doing such a good job modding this board (thanks, gals... and, uh, 'gals' 8) ).

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No Liscense? Great!

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That's even better CJ. I can drive! Jeannie always wanted to find out if they could really do 192MPH. The only Porsche I'll ever have will say Matchbox on it. I do like they're slogan though CJ. It reminds me of all of us ladies. "Porsche...... There is no substitute." Anybody what to ride shotgun? :) Hugs.

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PS. At least I thought Virginia would raise her hand! Don't tell me you're all chicken? Excuse me ...Chicks! Love you all. My ex Mini was correct in her assessment of me. She would always say"You're just not right." Hey ladies. She's the one who married me! Don't blame me! :lol:
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CJ you expressed that beautifully. You have a real gift for the written word.

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I'd like to give my complements also, Janet. :)
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Thanks for all the replies. I am thinking of a different twist. This person will live (alone) in a place of great natural beauty. She feels that she belongs there. If it is a beautiful place and she belongs then she too must be beautiful. Or something like that
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Absaroka
I think that I meet these requirements that you have put forth. I live in Alaska, a place of unchallenged great beauty, and enormous space without human occupation (or so it was). I have lived here in this wilderness since I was very young. My family homesteaded in an area dotted with lakes, streams, and rivers. The inlet to the Gulf of Alaska is but a meer 15 miles from my home. This great valley we live in is encircled by the tallest, most beautiful snow covered mountains one could ever hope to see. There is a hill out back of my place that has the best of views. I can see a full 270 degrees, Mt McKinley (Denali) stands tall on the horizon with its soft blue sky background. The small, crystal clear lake that is just out of my front door is clean and prestine. It is sometimes hard to tell the difference between the reflection of the trees on the water that sorround the lake and that of the trees themselves.
Beauty, yes indeed, believe me when I say, "Breathtakingly Beautiful". Do I belong here? It's one of those places that makes one feel that all of the energy is in complete compatibability with my soul. I am a very fortunate person indeed for having been given such a great gift of beauty. Yes, I belong! I remember sitting on the end of the dock, peering out over the water; I think I was wearing only a simple skirt and a white blouse, dangling my toes in the cool, spring feed waters. I remember the feelings then, as now, being so overwhelmed by the beauty of it that any thought of myself was so insignificant that self played little if no part. CJ put it quite aptly, "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder". I have a goodlooking male body, 5'-10" 175 lbs. No matter what I feel inside, I do not think of myself as either ugly or pretty. Like my given name, I accept it as me. I am what I am; and over the years I have come to like myself. Now I must come to terms with the feminine side of me that I have keep shut up and locked down in the dungeons of my soul.
I think that you are looking for something that may not exist anywhere but in our own minds. My perception of pretty is not the same image as that of my wife. When I get dressed up, either full-bore or quite simply, I do view my image in the mirror and think to myself how nice I look . Am I concerned with the opinions of others, yes, we all are, looking for exceptance and where we fit in in this big unfriendly world in which we live. When I look at others, a young woman in her tight-backside jeans or a poorly dressed man walking down the street, I do assess them to myself the beauty of each. It's not that your question does not have merit, it does, but only to the person to whom is asking the question.
Well, enough.
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Post by Danielle La Belle »

Hi Girls:

This is almost a philisophical question. If a tree falls in the woods and there is no one present, does the falling of the tree make a sound? Of course, that's physics, but, there is more to this than meets the eye.

With no one there to hear the tree fall, it still has fallen and all the associated physical aspects including the sound waves generated by the falling movement of the tree are created. But at the same time, there was no one present to witness this event through sight or hearing. The event still took place.

Before woman kind (men included :lol: ), could communicate that, "no, not now, I have a headache," :lol: :lol: :lol: , there needed to be both the ability to make a single sound and an organized means to communicate with sound.

Not retracing history to far back, I will stop with the 26 letters of the alphabet. Before we could use them, there needed to be some rules developed that would define the proper pronnuciation of the letters and characteristics that would become part of our "words," else they would just be letters strung together.

Before the word, "beautiful, beauty, ugly," came about, someone had to "see" a condition that they felt would be best described by these words.

A good example of this is the new word, "phat." It is now accepted and in the newest editions of modern dictionaries. While the pronunciation may imply a physical characteristic of the human anatomy as previously defined by the word "fat," it to the contrary and means "good."

So as with many words in the English dictionary, beautiful and beauty etc are being redefined through cultural changes. A caveman's idea of beauty was most likely radically different that that of today's modern man and woman.

So, if you want to try to "speak" for God, and attempt to define God's meaning of beautiful and beauty and ugly, then you may well have your hands full. We attempt to do this with "God's meanings on many other subjects, all carefully crafted in the "Bible." The trouble is, depending on your point of view as developed over time by your cultural expereince, we cannot always say for certain what is and is not.

There are many religions that support different points of view on the very same subject. I prefer that nothing is written in stone.

I recently wrote about how to define "cute." That there are many photos of young woman that when viewed by men, extract the word "cute." We all have said it before, "isn't she cute," "she looks really cute."

Try that on a woman say 60 - 70 - 80 years old. You will never hear men speaking of a woman of that age as "cute." So "cute" can be said is a physical attribute of young woman. We would then have to define "young." To further this, we would need to define our motive for implying such. Is it sexuality based, is it of another origin. "She's really cute." Said by a teenage boy means one thing, said by a teenage girl, could mean several things. Can a man or "boy" be cute? Definition and those that make the statement define how the term is being used.

You can begin to see the complications for defining what is beautiful. I like the phrase, "beauty is in the eye of the beholder." Recently quoted by a member of this forum in this thread. An age old definition that recognizes and permits flexibility in the definition process.

Some like "God,", some like "higher power," or "Creator." And there are still more recognized deffinitions that speak of someone or something greater than us. "Powers beyond mere mortal men......," where have I heard that phrase before...... Movies....Super.........!

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Post by Lydia »

Hi all,

It seems this thread is getting into the realm of semantics.

It ain't what you say, that counts, it's what you mean when you say it.

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Virginia, Elizabeth,

You remind me (one again) how much I love coming here to this forum! You have gone ahead of so any of us...myself included...and found the beauty...no, I think "sparkle" is a better word tht we all look for in our lives. You make me smile...and just knowing there are such people in the world as you...and knowing we are kindred spirits makes me feel beautiful, too!

BTW, I encourge my student to address me as "Oh, radiant one." (So far, none of them has. *sigh* Oh, well...)

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