Passing... what does it mean to you?
Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2017 5:58 pm
I have been watching numerous t-girls Youtube channels in recent weeks, enjoying learning a bit about their lives as they post on Youtube. It has been quite interesting and even quite entertaining. Like all people, trans girls are all over the map on their lives and journeys. Some are very extroverted almost narcissistic, others more down to earth and laid back. Some are very political, others less so. Some very feminine, others not so much. Often the topic of passing or being 'clocked' or 'read' comes up and these girls all respond in each their own way. Many feel knocked down, others wisely just push on through.
So along with cders who dress up fully en femme, tgers live en femme the issue of passing comes to mind, so I was thinking, what does passing mean to you? It could be as a cder who may dress fully en femme, as a cder who only partially dresses and has no intention to pass but has thoughts on the subject, to tgers who live as such and to wives or S.O's of cders or tgers.
To me the point of passing is in a perfect world, one where you are dressed and presenting yourself as the gender you desire as a cder or live as a tger would be to not be clocked, read, seen as a cder or tger. To be able to walk about and function in society as any other genetic woman may be, be she blended in or even more flamboyant. But in reality that may not always be possible for all who cd fully en femme or live as tger's. Some cders or tgers are more able to present themselves as the gender they desire, others less so, but that does not mean they don't pass.
I feel passing is not just about not being noticed as a cder or tger, but conducting oneself, dressing oneself as proper as one can to the gender they wish the world to see. As such they will be totally treated as the gender they appear, even if others in society clock or read them as either a cder or a tger. Passing is being treated as the gender you express yourself as.
Most people in daily society are lost in their own world and likely will not see a properly conducting cder or tger, nor will they much care even if reading or clocking them either. Passing is conducting yourself as any genetic person would in the same life situation, be you a cder or tger. Even if read or clocked society will if you conduct yourself like those around you will result in you passing anyways. If you are read or clocked and then make a big issue over it, will not likely help you.
Yes, in society there are idiots, *itches and a**holes who may whisper under breathe or within your ear shot and even mock any read or clocked cders or tgers. SUCH IS LIFE! All people at times deal with idiots, *itches and a**holes even as 'regular' folks. Very pretty genetic girls deal with it. Very handsome men deal with it. People seen as living unhealthy lives deal with it. Homely people deal with it, handicapped people deal with it, elderly people deal with it. Idiots, *itches and a**holes. can be around any corner, behind any door and will often feed on people they see as not like them or 'normal'. AGAIN SUCH IS LIFE! Walk away from these people when in public or if you can even minimize them if they are in your life (may be harder as such to do I realize that). We all choose to be victims of such attitudes by some people in life. We can go cry in a corner, we can feed their idiot/ignorant lust to hurt you, me, or by lashing out, or we can just move on. Win by being yourself and true to yourself!
Passing is not only the desire to not be read or clocked, THAT WOULD BE WONDERFUL!!! But is to be treated as the gender you present yourself in society.
One last point about passing and honesty that is more of a concern for a tgers. Some of the tgers I have seen and I enjoy seeing their videos on Youtube, bring up dating or hooking up most often mtf's and with straight males. They sometimes will post as to feeling hurt by a straight male who was looking like he was enjoying them and did not or could not tell if the girl they are with is a tger, then get upset when that bridge is later crossed. What did you expect? Especially if time was invested without sharing this important detail? It's not only about you as a trans girls here, the guy may have been totally into you but you were not up front or damn close to such tell him this. This is a betrayal to these males, sorry but that is true.
As a dude and yes a cder who loves to dress fully en femme and as such I can be a so girlie, I'd though in my life would not have any issue dating a trans woman, who was clicking well with me. BUT THAT IS JUST ME! Many males will date or even go into a relationship with a trans woman, as long as she is not bat *hit crazy or not upfront with these men. Dudes of sound mind do not like dating genetic women who are bat *hit crazy or more, why would they want to do similar with a trans woman? Being upfront and honest will better get you the man who is confident enough to date and love a happy well adjusted trans girl, again in my mind/life I would.
OBTW, dating, relations and such can be hard for MOST people, being a trans woman is another layer but again many guys would date trans girls, but not want to date liars or nuts.
So along with cders who dress up fully en femme, tgers live en femme the issue of passing comes to mind, so I was thinking, what does passing mean to you? It could be as a cder who may dress fully en femme, as a cder who only partially dresses and has no intention to pass but has thoughts on the subject, to tgers who live as such and to wives or S.O's of cders or tgers.
To me the point of passing is in a perfect world, one where you are dressed and presenting yourself as the gender you desire as a cder or live as a tger would be to not be clocked, read, seen as a cder or tger. To be able to walk about and function in society as any other genetic woman may be, be she blended in or even more flamboyant. But in reality that may not always be possible for all who cd fully en femme or live as tger's. Some cders or tgers are more able to present themselves as the gender they desire, others less so, but that does not mean they don't pass.
I feel passing is not just about not being noticed as a cder or tger, but conducting oneself, dressing oneself as proper as one can to the gender they wish the world to see. As such they will be totally treated as the gender they appear, even if others in society clock or read them as either a cder or a tger. Passing is being treated as the gender you express yourself as.
Most people in daily society are lost in their own world and likely will not see a properly conducting cder or tger, nor will they much care even if reading or clocking them either. Passing is conducting yourself as any genetic person would in the same life situation, be you a cder or tger. Even if read or clocked society will if you conduct yourself like those around you will result in you passing anyways. If you are read or clocked and then make a big issue over it, will not likely help you.
Yes, in society there are idiots, *itches and a**holes who may whisper under breathe or within your ear shot and even mock any read or clocked cders or tgers. SUCH IS LIFE! All people at times deal with idiots, *itches and a**holes even as 'regular' folks. Very pretty genetic girls deal with it. Very handsome men deal with it. People seen as living unhealthy lives deal with it. Homely people deal with it, handicapped people deal with it, elderly people deal with it. Idiots, *itches and a**holes. can be around any corner, behind any door and will often feed on people they see as not like them or 'normal'. AGAIN SUCH IS LIFE! Walk away from these people when in public or if you can even minimize them if they are in your life (may be harder as such to do I realize that). We all choose to be victims of such attitudes by some people in life. We can go cry in a corner, we can feed their idiot/ignorant lust to hurt you, me, or by lashing out, or we can just move on. Win by being yourself and true to yourself!
Passing is not only the desire to not be read or clocked, THAT WOULD BE WONDERFUL!!! But is to be treated as the gender you present yourself in society.
One last point about passing and honesty that is more of a concern for a tgers. Some of the tgers I have seen and I enjoy seeing their videos on Youtube, bring up dating or hooking up most often mtf's and with straight males. They sometimes will post as to feeling hurt by a straight male who was looking like he was enjoying them and did not or could not tell if the girl they are with is a tger, then get upset when that bridge is later crossed. What did you expect? Especially if time was invested without sharing this important detail? It's not only about you as a trans girls here, the guy may have been totally into you but you were not up front or damn close to such tell him this. This is a betrayal to these males, sorry but that is true.
As a dude and yes a cder who loves to dress fully en femme and as such I can be a so girlie, I'd though in my life would not have any issue dating a trans woman, who was clicking well with me. BUT THAT IS JUST ME! Many males will date or even go into a relationship with a trans woman, as long as she is not bat *hit crazy or not upfront with these men. Dudes of sound mind do not like dating genetic women who are bat *hit crazy or more, why would they want to do similar with a trans woman? Being upfront and honest will better get you the man who is confident enough to date and love a happy well adjusted trans girl, again in my mind/life I would.
OBTW, dating, relations and such can be hard for MOST people, being a trans woman is another layer but again many guys would date trans girls, but not want to date liars or nuts.