What do you think?

[Beauty]

Hey there,

Here's a question that doesn't need to be answered so I'm not going to do a poll.

One of the common things I've heard on the forum is that people think they are attractive when they dress en femme. I've seen pictures that I was literally like, OMG! of women and of men dressed as women, and that's not a positive OMG! it's an OMG what were you thinking before you stepped in front of that camera?

I love fashion. I love it when people are looking their best, but looking your best doesn't always mean looking pretty or attractive. I think women in a baseball cap and jogging pants are so hot! I love it when women run errands. I love grocery shopping when they are dressed like that. That look wouldn't work in Vogue magazine, but they are still stylishly dressed for what they are doing and I also consider that looking their best. It also means looking the best you could with what you've been blessed with or any alterations (surgery) that you've done.

I don't consider myself pretty. I look at images sometimes and go, "That's a nice shot." but I don't think I'm pretty at all. I don't think I'm handsome either. Ladies tell me I am, but I don't see it. I once dated this girl who said, "Oh my God.. you're not lying. You really don't think you're attractive." Finally! Someone saw it.

With a name like Beauty and being able to pass enough that I get more compliments than "ewww" people assume that's why I chose my name "You think you're a Beeeauty.. How special.", but I didn't choose my name for that reason. I don't think I'm a "beauty". Besides I see too many guy things in my face and since I view guy things as not attractive I don't think I'm pretty. If you knew me in real life you'd see it was true, but online those are just words.

So I'm writing to ask people this. When someone looks at you when you're dressed and makes a comment because they think you are a gal, but they are far enough away to not be able to tell, does that make you think you're pretty? Is it really important to you? Is it a kind of validation? Do you ever think that when men whistle at you it's not just because you have a pretty face, but because they also associate that pretty face with a vagina in an instant?

Hetero men aren't attracted to pretty faces. They are attracted to women. I think that makes us the majority of our members and guests here happy because the thought of being with a man isn't desirable for us. Some TG'd gals here identify with women in more than the one way a hetero TG'd person does. They identify with women because they dress like them and they also have the same fascination for the male species (that's another topic, sorry).

My point is. When a man looks at you and gives you a look lustful look. Do you feel that you're pretty? Is it an affirmation that you look good? Do you feel that he's associating you with just your face or do you think about him associating that face with a vagina? I'm just curious because I think it's interesting. I think it's a tabu topic that people are often looked down upon because they do feel they are pretty/desirable when dressed.

It's ok if this thread goes nowhere. I was just curious.

lol! I totally hope this made sense.

Beauty

[Virginia]

Me first, Me first! I credit my appearance to my name sake! My mother, Virginia, she was a beautiful woman and her genes help make Virginia (moi) pretty! Do I think Virginia is pretty, yes. Its the old saying, "it ain't braggin if you can do it!" Remember what I said the two GG's told me at the Christmas Party, that I "looked elegeant!" then added it is "girls like you that make us (GG's) have to work so hard to look nice!" I have had other very qualified GG's also tell me that I pass and look very nice.
One of the reasons beyond my genes is I try to pass, I work at it, I want to represent me and the female species, if you will, in the very best light that I can. In my other two posts this morning I cast dispersions on a lot of GG's and I am not sorry for that. If they fit the description of being a slob then do something about it!!!!! If they like being 100 pounds overweight, smelling like smoke, can't put on make-up or at least comb their hair then stay home!!!!! I can appreciate Beauty's description of GG's out doing their thing, shopping in jogging shorts and a ball cap, etc. but when you stuff 220 pounds in to that kind of outfit and waddle through a check out lane with three bags of potato chips, several gallons of ice cream, and gallons of sodas, chips and ..........well you know what I mean.
Damn, I keep getting off track.........anyway, yes I think I look pretty. That is how I want to look and when I look in the mirror I want to see a beautiful woman and I will do whatever is necessary to obtain that goal!As for attracting attention from males! If it comes with the territory, learn to deal with it like any other GG!
Love you all,
Virginia

[Paula Valentine]

I really have no idea if I'm "pretty." I know (believe?) that the person a CD sees in the mirror is often very different than the person that other people see. I don't like to have my picture taken (my avatar is the only pic I have of myself) because I am always disappointed. I rely on other people's opinions. Everyone has their own taste, and if I appeal to someone, GREAT!

[Beauty]

Here's one way to make sure someone responds. I'll make me the first response. (lol!) Virginia responded.. lol.. and now Paula too???!!!

So I'll tell you this. Men who contact me via my profiles in various places are tranny chasers and they are attracted to me because they like anything tranny. So they aren't the common man on the street. Throughout the years and twice recently here I've read about incidents where TG'd folks felt a kind of rush because of the event and so I'm curious to what you all think and even if you don't think you're pretty.

Men I've seen on the street are scary to me because I feel they aren't attracted to me, they are thinking of jumping my body. The body they assume is female. So that scares me.

When I was in NYC I walked, unknowingly, with an ex-girlfriend past a cabby garage. I was wearing "the little black dress" with dark hose and knee high boots. Someone saw me and the whistles grew from one to many and the cat calls started getting louder and louder. My ex looked back and told me a group of men were starting to come out of the garage. I didn't look back to confirm, I was too scared. Then cars started in, honking their horns. Why do women find morons attractive? Regardless, I was frightened and it didn't make me think I was having a great moment or that I was desirable.

We went out to eat that night too and a man was looking at me with lustful eyes. The thing is he was with a woman. Mentally and with my eyes I gave him the finger. We sat at a window, so people kept passing by and looking at me, but I never interpreted their looks as "Oh baby, baby" I thought of them as, "Hey.. look at the freak" My ex had to tell me those weren't looks of disgust, she told me they couldn't tell, but I didn't believe her either. I wanted to get another seat.

I did believe her as we were leaving for the evening. We were getting in a car and as I pulled my legs in a guy stopped getting in a cab he'd hailed and stopped the door he'd started closing from closing just to stare at me. lol! Then I was like, "Hey? Maybe she was right." That guy I flirted with because he was getting in a cab and I was closing my door and heading back home. It was safe. My ex told me all night I was getting her pretty hot because of how I looked all night and I didn't believe her. The guy getting in the cab made me realize that my ex wasn't lying and so I turned my deadly focus on her. What a night.

So that's about as close as I come. I've heard others say that they do feel pretty, desirable, attractive, and validated when men look at them in a way they look at other women. So now I'm back to being the host of the thread and want to know what it is about these moments that gives you the validation you need, if that's what it is.

Beauty

[Virginia]

My validation: Remember my posting about walking in a local park one evening when I was approached by two guys and a girl. The girl said,'That's a guy!" As we passed on the path, I just looked at them and smiled. A few steps past and one of the guys said," If that's a guy, I'd do HER!"
Validation??!! for me YES!
Virginia

[Beauty]

Hi Virginia,

Perfect response. Here's why I don't believe what people say. I've heard people tell people who looked like Fred Astaire with a wig on they look like Vanessa Williams. That doesn't mean they aren't pretty. I've seen GGs who look like Fred Astaire with a wig on. I feel people in the TG'd world are overly nice to your face about photos. So I guess in return I'm overly cynical about when people give me compliments. I totally appreciate each of them and take them as nice things that warm my heart, but they don't change the way I feel about the way I look. Compliments have never given me more compliments about my looks when I look male or female.

I don't know about your other posts this morning about GG's, but you're right that was way off topic.


Hi Paula,

Thanks for responding, but you nearly made me tear up. You only have one picture? This is what I mean about doing the best you can to be presentable for the occasion. If you're sitting around your computer I can understand if you're not dressed up to the nines. I understand my expectations of you and your expecations of yourself are different. I just hope you will take more and look at them as pictures of you versus your expectations of you. You can only be what you are today, tomorrow will work itself out in time.

I really like your avatar and to me there's no reason in the world I can see why you would always be disappointed with see you. I have a question? If you're disappointed at the way you look, is that saying you're disappointed in you?

Beauty

[Loretta Ann]

Hi all,

Men are attracted to women through sight. Pretty women to a man are as flowers are to a woman. Like I said else where there is no way I can be as pretty as some women. I would like to, but alas the best I can do is fantasize. So to your question am I pretty? The answer is no I am beautiful I love myself the way I am, and that is the way I want it to be.

[Paula Valentine]

I have a number of reasons for not having pictures of myself. That's just my "policy." I know that's very unusual for a CD, but that's the way it has to be.

[Beauty]

My validation: Remember my posting about walking in a local park one evening when I was approached by two guys and a girl. The girl said,'That's a guy!" As we passed on the path, I just looked at them and smiled. A few steps past and one of the guys said," If that's a guy, I'd do HER!"
Validation??!! for me YES!
Virginia

Hi Virginia,

Ok. See I wouldn't ever care what the guy says. My whole night would have been focused on what the gal said.

Hey? So if that guy was actually coming out to his gal what he really meant was he liked men who weren't women because of "things"? Would that be validation too? Because isn't that a possibility?

I don't want to change anyone's mind. I love seeing the spectrum of us all. I don't think we're all alike. I think showing our SOs, children, family and loved ones the variations of us is a good thing.

Beauty

[Beauty]

Hi Darlene,

Very cool. Thanks for responding!

Hi again Paula,

At the risk of being reported to the redundancy department. I said we're all different, but I should have included, but we all share parts. I think it's a perception that CD'rs love taking pictures of themselves. I'm in there somewhere between gals like you and the gals who posts pictures everyday of themselves. It's no secret that I go to a professional to get pictures taken, but I love seeing pictures of people out with friends now, like Lorna. That's what I want more now. It would help if I'd get out of the door, but again that's another topic.

So Paula, I respect your policy and I will step back. Thank you so much for your answers. I really learned a lot about you. Thank you for being so open.

Beauty

[Phylis Anne]

dear beauty ,first of all you are a very pretty woman.now am i pretty ,well as a guy i am not very handsome as i am an average looking guy.but as soon as i transform into phylisanne i start to feel different and feminine.personally i think i look better as a woman than ido as a man.i also look like my mother when she was my age .i think i look pretty aftre all my makeup is on and my hair is combed (my wig that is)most of the members at cdi who have seen me as a guy also tell me that i look better as a woman,so beauty is in the eye of the beholder.and i think we all look pretty /all my love phylisanne

[Beauty]

Hi Phylis Anne,

I missed you, ya' know? It's always good to hear from you.

Thank you for your nice compliment and thank you for your absolutely wonderful and open post. You are right it's about how you feel on the inside that's the most important part when it comes to feeling good or great about yourself. This applies for being dressed or not.

I do think I look better dressed than when I'm not, but I do not think that much better. I see women everyday and OMG are they so beautiful. Thank you God for women of all shapes and sizes! When I put myself next to them I feel like I'm Daria. Which I would consider a total honor!


With this thread I was just hoping to find out what validation or feeling TG'd folks had when men react to them. So far I have not been disappointed by the responses.

Beauty

[Paula Valentine]

I have to say .. how men respond to me is very important. Although I am true to my wife, I love the attention I get from men. Without going too deep into it (long psychological story!), being Paula is the only way I understand how it feels to be a sexually desirable person.

[Phylis Anne]

dear beauty,thanks for the lovely reply and i missed you too doll. this is one of the nicest cd forums and i allways feel comfortable whene i am here with all you girls.next month i am going to femmefever so i can meet all my old girlfriends that i havent seen in a while and i cant wait to be there again.take care love phylisanne

[Steffie]

Hi girls,

I can't really say whether I'm pretty when dressed. My wife says I am. She said I looked as pretty as ever when I went out to the Renaissance meeting 2 weekends ago (my 1st time out in broad daylight). That made me feel good when I heard that. I got a new wig prior to that meeting and my wife says it is the best one yet (out of the few wigs I have). Maybe I should have my wife take a pic of me the next time I go to a meeting and I can compare it.

The important thing I think: I know I feel pretty when dressed though. Hopefully it's true that you look as you feel. I know a lot of the pics of some of the girls on the forum are pretty and you can plainly see that these girls also "feel pretty."

Steffie