Well fashions change,but they also go in circles,usually its just the fabric type and prints etc that change,the styles pretty much stay the same.
Mens fashion has been changing remarkably throughout the 90's to 2000's etc.Fashion designers are fully aware that some men like the more feminine colours etc.
So my question to you,is if designers created more male clothes with a more feminine flare,would you be happy to wear these clothes,opposed to wearing complete female attire.
Well, I've "gone over the line" as far as body type goes (boob implants), but, "No, what I wear must be meant for women for it to have any attraction to me."
And that's even though I would wish that there really was a socially acceptable "3rd gender" catagory in society.
I have to wear a wig, since I am balding (ech! what a horrible image, LOL!), but in my ideal world, I could dress in woman's clothes, and just wear a feminine hat of some kind. Everyone would know that I was not a "real" woman, but they would know that I was a woman nonetheless. And that would be just fine.
I would have to say no, there is no way. It seems everyone wishes this would just go away. We are not broke, we do not need fixing. We like what we like and no matter how intergender they make things we (on a whole, not everyone) are still gonna gravitate to the female clothes. Not sure why this is. But I will tell you why for me. Because I have spent almost 25 years trying to not kill myself over what I am(though I tried twice years ago). And now I am ok with who I am and love it. Would you give up something you worked 25 years to achive, or more?
Tiffy
P.S.
I do not mean to offend anyone. I am not being mean. Everyone wakes up on the wrong side on occasion and feels grumpy. Just struck me strange after a few site all I see are would you quit? Would you take fem color stuff made for men? Would you take a pill that makes it go away?
The answer 95% of the time is NO. Unless you are asking the ladies if they would take a pill to change their sex. But as to just go a different way or quit. NOPE We work to hard at this.
It REALLY is a LIFES work for us.
Thank you all for letting me get this out.
Would I change it? No.... Spent to long fighting to get to this point. I would not change nor give it up.
This question comes up pretty frequently. Cast in its negative form, it would look like this: "If it were possible for you to not behave as you do (i.e., to not dress as a woman), would you do so?" For most, the answer would be "no," I imagine. Why? Because, there's no need to. Even though most people who consider, evaluate, and judge us think or believe that our transgenderedness takes something away from us, we, on the other hand, think our transgenderedness is a positive thing, that it actually adds to who we are.
I would rather ask this: If people became more tolerant and open to sexual and gender diversity (amongst other things) and didn't look twice at how people chose to dress, would you want to live among such people, in such a society? My answer, of course, is a resounding "yes."
Will society ever become that open and tolerant? Probably not. On the other hand, will crossdressers and transsexuals ever become non-crossdressers and non-transsexuals? Never.
Traditional social expectations regarding gender roles (including, obviously, dress) are hurting people by forcing them to twist and bend who they are simply in order to conform to some arbitrary notions and ideals; people on the gender margins are hurting nobody and, in fact, are even contributing positively to society by showing others that it's important to have the courage to be who you are because only in this way can you cleave to that other ideal: namely, that only a fully realized (and self-actualized) person can be of service to the culture of which he or she is a part.
Having someone ask me, "If you could dress like this, would you?" is but a preamble to the unasked question, "If you could, then why do you dress like that?" I certainly understand, for example, Tiffy's frustration (and pain); I've been there, myself. It's a result of people not being able (nor even, by dint of being part of a majority, willing) to see the beautiful person that's there, right in front of them. They see only what's in their mind--"this is what a man looks and acts like, this is what a woman looks and acts like." Rubbish. And, yes, it's certainly rubbish also when CD's do it. But CD's don't ask that the person in front of them change his or her looks; if they do, they're just as much in the wrong. We do, however, ask that people be more open to the great variety of "human beingness." A tall order, but one that needs to be made, regardless.
To stop short this rant, and to answer Penni's question: no.
Very interesting and direct answers to my question.
Here in Perth where I live,we have a local newspaper,a community one of whats happening,etc.
Well sometime ago an article was written about one of our weather men here,he loves to wear skirts and guess what he is not a crossdresser,he like the line of a certain skirt and he had what would have been business trousers made into a skirt...same fabric that would've been worn for trousers.
Now this person said over and over,it may seem I'm a crossdresser,however I am not.....skirts are just more comfortable and practicle.
So here's a guy,not a crossdresser wanting to wear a skirt using what would be classed as business suit material.
If they made trousers for guys in pink,or cream etc with a femme cut..I'm sure you would wear them,especially if it was an opportunity to
express your femme self through your male mode.
Now this person said over and over, it may seem I'm a crossdresser, however I am not.
If people... didn't look twice at how people chose to dress, would you want to live among such people, in such a society?
That this gent feels he needs to insist he's not a crossdresser is still a response to people looking twice at his chosen manner of dress.
Q.E.D.
I understand where you're coming from, Penni. Yet, I still think the chance to express our feminine side has more to do with the attitudes of others than it does with the type or cut of material our clothing is made of.
In answer to your question Penni, what I choose to wear has more to do with who I am and what I feel inside. I really have no desire to dress in the present feminine slanted (or coloured) male fashions because I don't 'feel' anything in doing do. It's just not me. If those innovative men's fashions were to include much more traditionally femme type clothing, then maybe I'd reconsider, only because it would seem more in tune to how I feel. Until that day comes though, I'd have to reserve judgment on that for now.
Tiffy said:
Because I have spent almost 25 years trying to not kill myself over what I am(though I tried twice years ago). And now I am ok with who I am and love it.
Tiffy, I'm glad to hear that. It is a testament to all of us that we CAN overcome these negative feelings AND be happy. Good for you!.
my answer is also no .when i dress i want to be as feminine as i can.especially when i travel by subway to new york city.mens clothes ,as droll as they are will never become more feminine ,in my opinion.maybe some time in the distant future mens and womens clothes will be alike and the crossdressers of that time will be able to dress as they wish with no bias . love and happy new year to all ..phylis anne
My name is Phylis Anne and I am enjoying my life as a crossdresser and being a woman who loves life
Very interesting and direct answers to my question.
Here in Perth where I live,we have a local newspaper,a community one of whats happening,etc.
Well sometime ago an article was written about one of our weather men here,he loves to wear skirts and guess what he is not a crossdresser,he like the line of a certain skirt and he had what would have been business trousers made into a skirt...same fabric that would've been worn for trousers.
Now this person said over and over,it may seem I'm a crossdresser,however I am not.....skirts are just more comfortable and practicle.
He may not consider himself to be a CD, but if he wears anything designed for and intended for women only, then he is crossdressing.
I've tried the color thing, but it doesn't work for me if the item of clothes was meant for men. Like a man's pink polo shirt as compared to a woman's pink polo shirt. It's a mental thing I reckon.
Wearing a skirt works. Wearing any of my guy shirts with a skirt works. And I don't need to wear a wig or makeup.
Note that jean skirts are made from fabric that has been used for trousers before being used for skirts. There are lots of skirts made from the same fabric used for trousers first.
So, it's not necessarily the fabric that satisfies, but who the item of clothing was made for.
Steph,
Thank you dear and you are right. We can overcome it. But it takes a ton of time and work. And in the end you need the suport of someone you love. Atleast that is what helped me so. When they could accept who I was they help me accept it.
Tiffy
Would I change it? No.... Spent to long fighting to get to this point. I would not change nor give it up.
Yes I would and I currently do. You may have picked up from my other posts that I internally relate to a guy in a dress type of CDer. On a daily basis I wear a mix of male and female clothes. Some days only under dressed and some days outer also. Most days I have on at least one femme item, and some days all, but I am presenting my male self. If one looks there are quite a few unisex looking female clothes and there are a lot of unisex male clothes. There are male shirts with lace accents on them, male clothes cut with a feminine look, and male clothes that look just like clothes in the female departments, just as some examples. Yes most of these have a more unisex look. But interestingly I have some female tops and male shirts that look exactly the same except for the length. I have female jeans that look male, but have shallow pockets, and I have female panties and male underwear that is hard to tell the difference; just as a few examples.
The biggest difference I think is that I relate heavy to the male side and do not consider myself to be female. I consider myself a male with many feminine attributes and characteristics. Even being fully dressed enfemme and look and feeling very feminine, I do not feel like a gal, I just feel like my male self. And I think I am able to do a male uni-sex dress and mix of male and female clothes because of this.
My life time goal before I die, is to be able to leave the house presenting my male self and be in any mix of male and female clothes that fit my mood and the situation or work environment I will be in. The first thing most people think is I will look like a guy in a dress and they are thinking the comedy TV and Movie images that we see. I think, get real you are as bad as the general public. For business it may be a nice long skirt suit with a clean shave face, mid heels, my own hair, and little to no makeup. For daily wear maybe a tee or casual top, jean or other casual skirt, knee length or longer, nice flats, my own hair, and maybe lipstick. But for working around the house it may be a old long jean skirt, tee, work boots, cap and could be unshaven. Oh and my tool belt with power tools in hand.
Basically I would dress similar to may GG's other than for the possible facial hair..... and I have seen some GG's even push that aspect.
But for now I am content to leave the house presenting either a male or female image that the public can handle. And I do this to protect myself, my job, my wife and kids, and it is a compromise with my wife. Wanting more in life is good, but reality is also good. I enjoy my life for the most part and I have a wife that while she does not like my CDing is willing to work with me on it. It is more than I once dreamed I would have ever had.
So I guess after all of that to answer your question it would be yes and no. Yes I would wear some of them, but would not wear just them as something within me wants it coming from the female wear side at times also.
Many call me different, and I will not deny it, but I do consider myself a CDer.
KimberlyS-CD
Site Administrator
I am a physically male person that likes to wear feminine clothes at times.
Just trying keep a balance for my self along with keeping my wife and kids in mind.
Penni -- I would also wear them if available -- and do now sometimes.
I saw some write that it made a difference who the clothes were intended for. I can kind of understand that, but not totally. I want to wear clothes for the image I want at the time. I know that women in general do not worry that much about this type of thing. They will wear a man's jacket, chirt, pants jacket, even jewelry if it suits the style / look they are after.
My utopia would be we could all wear what we want when we want to without some great fear / phobias / sterotypes about what the clothes must make us.
I have a few items of clothing that are womens clothing that are just more comfortable than mens but that appear unisex. I wear them pretty openly. They include sandals and womens athletic tee shirts (the fit and fabric is just different, more cozy and sensual)
At the same time a slip feels really nice. But with mens clothing although I like them to feel nice I wouldn't want them to feel as nice as a slip. I want to be able to forget that they are there. With womens clothing I want to remember that it's there.
But now I am not really crossdressing so I am wearing them for a different reason.
When I play dress up (and for me that is exactely what it is) I often mix male and female clothing. It becomes almost pretending to be a woman wearing some male clothing and thus transforming the clothes by assigning them a new role. For example a casual skirt with one of my male flannel shirts.
There are a lot of more feminine, different colors and so on mens clothes that I really dislike so I don't wear them. Although with womens clothing it is sometimes (less often with each day) okay for them to be confining, it is never okay for mens clothes to feel that way.
So I guess the answer is that if skirts and stockings become acceptable for men, I may well wear them, but I will at the same time still want to find some other way to cross dress. And if it is all more acceptable I might tell a few more people but I would still keep it pretty private.
It all makes perfect sense to me even if it seems entirley contradictory.
Absaroka
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everything under the sun is in tune
but the sun is eclipsed by the moon
HAPPY NEW YEAR MY FAVORITE LADIES,
love and happy new year to all ..phylis anne
