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NO NOT THAT.

I have the day at home on my own today, while I wait for my van to be MOT'd and repaired, so I thought I would go through some of my clothes, making sure of what was suitable and maybe getting rid of some of the items that will never get worn. One thing I have noticed is that I look less female with a lower waist. With a dress I can often raise the waist (and therefore making my body appear shorter and my legs longer) with a belt. With a skirt or trousers and a top I find that a longer top outside the waistband lowers the waist. SO, should I not use longer tops, or should I tuck them into the waistband of the trousers / skirt.

I know that in boy mode I prefer to tuck my shirts in when wearing formal clothes, but leave polos and tees outside. What do you think?

I leave a lot of tops on the out side as that is the way most casual women weat them. Now a nice tight skirt and a sexly blouse I tuck in but the wife showed me a little trick about it.

Once you get it tucked in and smooth out you pull up just enought to fold over the belt line for a prefect look.

My wife tells me I still have a lot to learn about wearing cloths

I like leaving tops outside skirts or sllacks and ahcve it that way now withj slacks

Most male waistlines are at or below the navel. Women's waists ar normally 1 to 2 inches above the navel. As a result of my wearing skirts at the female level, my male belt-line seems to have shifted up.

I frankly find the appearance of the male "beer-belly" sagging over a low belt unappetizing at best.

Hugs,

Lydia

I can't believe that anyone finds the old beer belly attractive, yet another reason to stay in shape. interestingly since my cross dressing has been a little more "out there" my weight (and more to the point my waist line) have been a little reduced and a lot more stable than before.

No wonder my instinctive response to the thread title was "Friar Tuck".

Part of the thinking behind The "Breasts vs Hips" thread was to do with the idea that people here (and elsewhere in the CDing community) seem to have an idea of "slim=good", whereas for me "slim=kind of irrelevant" when it comes to conveying a (somewhat) realistic presentation of a woman. And actually it may even be "slim=bad" to some degree. I mean the whole thing about artificially creating a lap - i.e making yourself look fatter - never seems to have occurred to people. Yet, to me, that can enhance the illusion and get closer to what a lot of women actually look like. Sure there is an attractive "ideal" that a lot of women manage to achieve. But does one necessarily have to go for that ideal if one is attempting to create a decent presentation? To me there's a confusion in people's minds between trying to look "attractive" and trying to look "convincing". I don't think they're at all the same thing.

I don't like to wear any more foundation garments than really necessary, so would rather try to emphasis what waist I have (I am lucky for a man in that I do have a waist) with the aim of creating the illusion of hips. I agree that the "Stick insect" model of femininity is a false one, and one that personally I don't find attractive, no slim does not equal good, but how we look, feel, and carry ourselves is all part of the presentation, as is how the clothes fit. If I can maintain my waist (healthily) then that makes the clothes fit better and improves my presentation.
All that having been said I make no effort at this, it is more down to the physical nature of my work.

I always leave longer tops untucked, and seek out longer tops so that I don't have to tuck them in. Other wise they make my waist too high.

Many women our age try not to tuck tops into skirts anyway. It's hard to keep a fashionable midsection after a few pregnancies among other things.

I thought from the title of you topic you meant something else...........

Zari

Dare I admit to being deliberately provocative

For me it's usually about creating an appealing set of proportions. While I don't always agree with Tim Gunn I do tend to think his rule of thirds is a good one: avoid dividing the body vertically in half, stick to thirds instead. That suggests that with high-waisted skirts and pants you can tuck a blouse in so that it only reaches 1/3 of the way down your body. With a lower waist a longer untucked top tends to look better. Things get more complicated with a coat in the mix where you need to worry more about competing lengths.

Of course there are never at hard-and-fast rules. Experiment and see what flatters your body style, and pay attention to how other women around you dress. Building that awareness is as valuable a skill as any I have learned.

I'm not a tucker. Nothing looks good on me tucked and gawd forbid even drab stuff. Being tall, a lot of stuff really isn't long enough to tuck unless I pull my bottom above even the female waist line.

A top not tucked in leaves a more feminine outline