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Then and Now

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 3:43 pm
by Gretchen
I am a new contributor to this website although I have visited and infrequently posted elsewhere. I have been checking in here daily and find a great deal more understanding and acceptance of the multi-level nature of crossdressing.
So, without much further prefacing, here goes....
I can remember being fascinated with girls, girls clothing and girls hairstyles since at least age 5 or 6. I have a very vague recollection of some incident where I think my Dad and one of his friends fixed my longish little boy hair to look like a girl, complete with hair ribbon. I just remember the strange and vaguely pleasant warm feeling I had.
I always remember paying attention to the girls in grade school and feeling jealous of the pretty dresses and long hair that they had. I think I just wanted to experience what it felt like to wear those sweet clothes and wear my hair like a girl.
I really didn't act on those feelings until about age 12 when I found myself home from school one day, not all that sick, and snooping around my mother's chest of drawers. I found the nylons, the girdles, the slips and the jewelry and just couldn't resist the urge to put on the girdle and try to figure out how those nylons worked. It didn't take long to figure out and I immediately felt an excitement and bliss I hadn't felt since that day many years before with my Dad and his buddy fixing my hair.
I only tried on my mom's dresses and skirts a few times because she was very small and even at age 12, all but the undies were too small to enjoy and have fun with.
My dressing continued with undies, girdles and nylons until about age 15, when I started dating and thought I had lost interest in dressing. I imagined that what I had done was just a phase or substitute for the real thing of dating girls.
I met my future wife at age 17 and we had a long term relationship all through high school and college. We were married right after college and I cannot recall any desire to wear women's clothing during those early years. I do remember being keenly aware of all garments that my wife was wearing at any given time, but think the physical attraction and arousal was a normal male female thing.
Our relationship nearly ended after seven years of marriage when my increasing alcohol addiction became chronic. I wanted desperately to save the marriage because I truly loved my wife and was willing to give rehab a try and see what happened. To make a long story short, the treatment center taught me what I needed to know about the disease, broke my denial and forced me to confront my past and clean up the wreckage I had caused.
That was nearly 30 years ago and our marriage has improved steadily but not without the usual ups and downs. My membership in a 12 step program has truly saved our marriage and helped us to improve our relationship significantly. We now have three grown children and four grandchildren and are enjoying our middle age years with travel and lots of movies, dinners, etc.
About 6 months ago, I had an overpowering urge to buy a pair of pantyhose and try them on. That was all, or so it seemed at the time. I remember the thought that what I wanted to do and did was quite OK and perfectly acceptable. It took some courage to buy those pantyhose at the grocery store, but took the plunge anyway. That was only the beginning.
At this point, I have acquired three skirts, two blouses, several items of shapewear, tons of nylons and a little bit of jewlery (clip on earrings.)
I can honestly say that the feeling of contentment, relaxation and serenity I get from dressing is beyond my wildest expectations.
I am closeted and at this point intended to stay that way. I am a heterosexual male and do enjoy the male role almost as much as the current feminine personna I am getting acquainted with .
I am comfortable with this totally private activity that I thoroughly enjoy and honestly do not have any desire to share it with family, friends or anyone outside these rooms. I have had three close calls of near discovery by my wife and will never forget the fear and panic I felt when being almost found out. My wife has given me the impression, over the years, that she regards crossdressing as a perverted abnormal behaviour,so I have no notions of revealing my secret to her at this time.
My efforts at concealing and opening up the "wardrobe" are careful and consistent every time I dress and undress. I am of course always fearful of being found out, but have come to a level of care that seems to give me enough comfort and confidence to enjoy this adventure 3-5 times per week while my wife is at work. I am unofficially "retired" due to disability so am basically playing the role of the house husband (or something like that).
It feels really good to share my story right now and open myself up to meeting you all. I look forward to continuing on my learning curve and will say a thank you to all who have helped me on many CD issues as I lurked about these rooms.
I am still a novice, but it feels right and acceptable to me. I know I do this today as a form of exploration, contentment and not for sexual arousal. Although I will freely admit that sometimes I am truly turned on by the look, feel and excitement of what I am doing.
Love,
Gretchen

Don't get stressed, get dressed!

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 6:53 pm
by Jeannie
Dear Gretchen,
I'm a 55 year old male who just came out to my wife of 25 years. My Mom and Dad have passed away and my kids our in college and I had to stop living inside myself these last 40 years to protect all the people I loved at my own expense. I've always loved to dress as a woman an when I'm dressed I feel like I'm home. Comfortable, calm and serene.
My wife wasn't very tolerant and will be leaving me by the end of October.She said "I'm not a lesbian" She's right in one respect. I'm a heterosexul man but a submissive lesbian woman. Boy. It will be really tough getting dates!
My wife is out with her girlfriends and I'm dressed right now. I have a magenta blouse, black pencil skirt, taupe stockings and 3 inch round toed mules . Of course two ankle bracelets! I just love them! Luckily Im a small man,5'5", 136 and a size 8 petite with a size 9 shoe. It's quite easy to find womens clothes for me. I'm such a girly girl! I would never be caught dead in a pair of flats!
That's all for now I gotta run. In my stocking that is! Wish you the best.
Hugs
My femme name is Jeanette but I just love Jeannie


Quote: "The truth will set you free"

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 8:31 pm
by DonnaT
-wel- to the forum Grethen.

Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 12:30 am
by Anita
Hi Gretchen--
I can identify with some points in your post. I was also aware of what my girlfriends were wearing, and put any feelings about that into my overall attraction to them. I didn't dress at all in those years.

It's unusual that your dad would have done anything with your hair. My sisters made me up one time that I remember, and at first I liked it--then I threw a fit and wanted it all gone, instantly. I'm puzzled at what that was all about, but I remember it.

Welcome to the forum.

Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 9:06 am
by Virginia
Hi Gretchen,
Well as they say, "Rules are made to be broken ( or at least challenged)!?" We have a rule/ guidleline here that you need to tell your spouse. I am beginning to believe that for those of us whose feminine side seems to have come out "later in life" may be better off not telling! I know a lot of my sisters may disagree with me, but the blood and gore of coming out are scattered all through out this forum. We who have put a lot of sweat-equity in a marriage and then to have this aspect of our existence suddenly seem to DEMAND recognition have created a world of hurt for a lot of us. Me???? I would have still come out when I did - what almost three years ago? Virginia came out on the, only what I can describe as "the fast track!" Anyway, my problem. Coming out after many years in a marriage and something like this - well actually there is nothing like this to introduce to your spouse! Counselling??? my apologizes to any of my sisters who may disagree with this but, I don't think it would help - other than to give some credence to saving the marriage from the standpoint of saying, "but honey, I am going to counselling." We all know it ain't gonna go away and the wrong counselor can really screw us up even more in understanding this "gift" we have. No one will ever convience me otherwise, that it is a gift!!!
Sorry, I digress - should you come out - conventional wisdom says yes, but again, those of us who found this aspect of us later in life - perhaps it is better to as they say, "let a sleeping lion lie!"
Good luck with your "Magical Mystery Tour" and we hope you find your own solution. We are here to help each other and look forward to seeing what path you take.
Virginia

Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 11:30 am
by Gretchen
Thanks to all of you for your thoughts and welcome. Virginia, am I understanding you correctly that members of this forum are "required" or at least "expected" to inform their spouse or SO about their crossdressing activity? I was not aware of that guideline when I joined, posted and viewed other postings as I have been doing for the past several weeks.
I would appreciate some clarification on that question, because it has been my understanding and opinion that for some of us, "coming out" to our spouses, SO's or immediate family is not a viable or safe option for various reasons. I consider myself in that category at this time and do not want to engage in a pro and con discussion of the need to reveal this personal attribute to anyone unless a CD chooses to. I reserve the right to modify that position and decision as time goes on, but for the moment, that's how I am.
As I said, I am relatively new to being a mostly "complete" CD'er, i.e., full scale dressing from the inside out.
I fully respect anyone's position on this issue and have read a number of very painful posts from many who have either been discovered or chose to come out on their own.
To be very honest, I do not feel the need to risk my marriage, family, finances and a lot more just to inform my spouse of my very private activity.
In all sincerity, if I have unknowingly violated a forum guideline and invaded anyone's privacy by viewing many posts in the past few weeks, I humbly apologize.
Love,
Gretchen

Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 11:34 am
by DonnaT
There is no rule that one must come out to their spouse on this forum.

It is greatly encouraged, but you do what you feel is best for you and your mariage.

Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 11:56 am
by Gretchen
Thank you, Donna for your response. I appreciate your words very much.
I am excited about sharing more of my experience and feelings in the future.
Love,

Gretchen

re just like me

Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 3:04 pm
by Phylis Anne
dear jeanette,i just read your lovely story and we are almost alike.i also just came out to my wife after 30 years of hiding in the closet and it was so wonderfull to be able to wear my femme clothing without having to hide like a theif.she is tollerant and lets me go to all my cdi meetings and all my clothing is in plain view in our closet.i am also a size 8 or 10 depending on the dress and i wear a size 9/5 shoe but sometimes i get a size 10.i dress conservatively as i ride the subway to our meetings in the city so i have to look like a 60ish jewish lady,so i will fit in with every body else.i also started when i was very young and i wore my mothers stockings and her girdle and like every one else in our community i was hooked and i never looked back.love phylisanne :) @@9@@ -wel- (--) <--> //party

Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 3:10 pm
by Virginia
Ah the written word!? I reread my post and I see how it could have easily been interpreted as being a "requirement" , but no way!!!! It is just that the considered opinion of some of us is that the pressure of not coming out can be more than it is worth, yet for some it is not an option. I am sorry if I lead you believe otherwise!! :oops: We are all different in how we accept and deal with this gift and how we feel our family and friends will deal with it. We are here to support each other as I said and hopefully gleen some helpful information from each other to deal with this aspect of our lives.
Thanks,
Virginia