First Time In The Mall Dressed.....Ideas?

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First Time In The Mall Dressed.....Ideas?

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I have decided to go to the mall dressed. :) The mall I will be going to is empty most of the time.Most of the stores have moved out.There is only a couple of restaurants left in the food court.It shouldn't be too much exposure.It will also be Friday morning,so there will be alot of people at work.I should be off. 8)
This will be the first time in public for Sarah.I have some questions for anybody here who cares to answer.
What should I do if someone talks to me? :shock:
(I don't have the voice for it,yet)
What if I hear someone say"That's a man!" :oops:
I am not going to go in any of the stores(at least this time).It's just the idea of being out and about.
Any thoughts?
Thanks!
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Sarah L. wrote:What should I do if someone talks to me? :shock:
(I don't have the voice for it,yet)
If you feel you need to answer use a soft voice, like a loud whisper. Or, if you know sign language, pretend you are deaf. If you really don't want to talk to someone then don't look them in the eye and avoid coming close to anyone.
Sarah L. wrote:What if I hear someone say"That's a man!" :oops:
Look around as if you are looking for who they are talking about. I think this happens most when it is a young child who hasn't been taught proper manners.

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Sarah,

Let's back up a bit here! I am assuming that you have not gone out before? Malls are not the best place to take that first journey, regardless of the condition of the place. First, malls harbor our greatest enemy, that being teenage girls!!! They tend to scurry around malls in packs and unbeknown st to them they have this uncontrollable urge to seek roll models, they subconsciously critique every female they see. They also have this innate ability to read us maybe even better than gays. If they read you/us it is like pouring cold water on them, usually they will "freak-out" and have a tendency to announce to everyone within that particular zip code that they have discovered something totally beyond their comprehension and then they will take more than a passing interest in you, upto and including confronting you. Just passing on something for your consideration.

I would suggest first just taking a drive in the day time if that is what you wish, but there is a certain bit of security being encased in 2000 pounds of glass and steel!

Second, I would suggest (it was what I did several times as my first foray amongst the great unwashed) an afternoon movie matinee. You can park as close or far away from the theater as feel works. The theater is usually not crowded at all and the only real interaction you have to have is with the person selling tickets and if it is like around here you are talking through a 1" thick piece of Plexiglas, (as Connie eluded to, a soft whisper works great). Once inside, they take your ticket so all you have to do is look the person dead in the eye, hand them your ticket and for God's sake SMILE, pleasantly, and head for the theater. Sit one seat in from the aisle. If someone comes in a sits next to you just get up and move as given all the seats that should be available should they choose the one right next to you they are probably a "perv" anyway! This gives you the chance to as I call it, "practice your moves." Taking off and putting on a coat, sitting like a lady, crossing and uncrossing your legs, placement of your hands (keep them away from your face - messes the make-up). You get all this and entertainment as well. Afterward, there usually is a separate exit and you can leave when you feel comfortable and walk to your car. Two or three movies later and you begin to feel comfortable with this then I would recommend graduating to a buffet with a friend, no waiter, no ordering.

Good luck, hon and let us know what and how you do!!!
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Post by Sylvia H »

Sarah,

Having only first been out in public only about 9 months ago, some things are still fresh in my mind.
First on the list is expressing some level of confidance. Virginia is correct, smiling is very important. Actually those 2 things go together. Another is walk slowly, as I think males tend to walk faster.

Oh yeah, trim the nose hair too :lol:

If you want more particulars feel free to PM or email.

xox
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Post by DonnaT »

Hi Sarah,

I wouldn't worry about the voice, as I doubt any strangers will start up a conversation. I don't know about you, but the number of times I've been in the mall, en homme, I've never had strangers start up a conversation.

If someone says 'morning' then use a light breathy voice to replay 'morning' and smile. Easy enough to practise doing before then.

Also don't worry about someone shouting "that's a man" or similar. 1 in a million chance that will happen. If it does, just keep walking and ignore them.

And being a Friday morning, the teens should be in school, so I don't think you have anything to worry about in that regard.
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Re: First Time In The Mall Dressed.....Ideas?

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Sarah L. wrote:I have decided to go to the mall dressed. :) The mall I will be going to is empty most of the time. Most of the stores have moved out.There is only a couple of restaurants left in the food court.It shouldn't be too much exposure.It will also be Friday morning,so there will be alot of people at work.I should be off. 8)


Sarah,
It sounds like you have thought this out well.
A less busy mall
Week day morning is normally a slower shopping time
Kids should be in school, no groups of teens
Is this mall also a ways from your home or out of town to minimize your chance of running into someone you know? Or do you not see running into someone you know as a potential issue? From almost all of the pics I have seen here, any of them would have few to mostly no issues. Your nervous actions will most like draw more attention.

IMHO being out and about is mostly mentally within your mind. Your personal acceptance of yourself and what you are doing and your attitude about doing it. IMHO your personal acceptance and attitude shows through your actions, movements and speech. Being nervous is ok. You will be.

Expect some looks and maybe some comments. But just go about your own business and repeat to yourself "it does not matter what they think" or "it is ok for me to be doing this".

In my experience if you have a blending look similar to the look that most others have at the mall, most will not even see you as you walk down through the mall. Yes they will see you as a person walking through the mall, but unless there is something that really sticks out, most will not take a second look at you. You are a person in their crowd of life. Those that happen to look a bit closer may do a double take and and most will give you a questioning look and move on. In my experience very few will comment, and some will comment or laugh after passing. I have yet to be approached by anyone just walking and most of the comments and laughs I have gotten were early on in my going out or when in a guy in a dress look. I still get lots of questioning looks but do not care. I figure I am giving them a different exposure of what a TG/CD is as apposed to that they have seen on the news or via society mis-information. If being near home and those I know my main concern is that my male identity is concealed not the fact that I am male.

Voice as others have said, just speak softer at a lower volume, slower and clearly. Trying to disguise it will often make it worse IMHO.

If someone says "That's a man!", unless they are coming at you angry with a pitch fork and torch, just ignore them and go about your business. IMHO if you look and confirm what they said you may get more comments and responses. Ignoring them and going about your business makes them question what they said as being true.

If you feel brave pop into the front of a store or two and briefly check out what is on the first rack, then turn and leave. Doing it briefly usually does not allow an SA enough time to get to you. But if they do, a "just looking" usually fends them off unless you get the what is on sale pitch or move into the store more. But SA's in most cases are your friend. They may get a sudden surprised look when they make you. But do not run. I have yet to have an SA that did not treat me professionally or better. Mostly just like another customer and often it seems better than other GG customers.

Enjoy the experience otherwise it is not worth it.


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Post by Sarah L. »

Hello.
The town that I will be going to is about 40 minutes from my house,so the odds of running into anyone I know are very slim.
No one has ever walked up to me in a mall and tried to start a conversation,I figure luck would have it happen my first time out.
I have been to a support group meeting,but didn't dress until I got there.I have driven at night dressed up,I really enjoyed that.
I like the idea of a movie.The kind of movies they make nowadays,it shouldn't be too suspicious if I walk out in the middle.
I want to thank all of you for giving me some things to consider.Of course,there's no guarantee I won't get cold feet and drive home and hide under the bed! #-o
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Hi Sarah--
I was forgetting something, until today, and that is the fact that I went out at night probably three times before I ended up going out in daylight. I remember thinking, "Wow, this is going to be different," and it was.

I can go unnoticed in the daytime now, but that wasn't so much the case when I was starting out. I was grateful for all that dim light and shadow on my first outings. It's just a matter of practicing your moves, and I found it easier to practice in an evening environment.

Nighttime has its own risks, of course. You're more vulnerable if you're out alone as a woman. I didn't really think about this; I was going to clubs my first few times out, in industrial areas of San Francisco. There were enough other people out on the streets that I didn't feel isolated.

We're all different in our comfort zones. It was quite some time before I went to a mall; I just wasn't comfortable with that. However, I went into a grocery store on one of my first nights out, and felt fine about that. Even though there were people in there, it felt very safe to me. I kept a cart in front of me, walked slowly, and just browsed the aisles. No one commented or stared; teens were nowhere around, and neither were little kids. To this day, I have never encountered any overt rudeness in a grocery store.

I know you're picking a location that's partly deserted, and that helps. But even now, daytime outings take more "work" on my part than nighttime outings do.
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Post by Lucy Michelle »

Like others have said smile when someone looks at you (its very disarming). Be safe (got an alarm?) think would a rg or bob do that?

Good luck
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Post by Kalee »

Well i agree with most of what the other gurls have said.
I would like to suggest to you that you NOT go to a mall yet! You dont seem to have the self confidence !

My suggestion to you is, go out to a gay bar, or a TG club!
If you do decide to go to a more public place please find a couple women to go with you! This is why women usually travel in packs, because nobody will mess with them!

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