Out on the town again

Tell us about the things you like to do, and what you do, when you go out en femme. All other topics will be moved to appropriate forum.

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Julie M.
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I am looking for some of you ladies to pick up the slack

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I promised my wife no more outings until after my son goes to school. He's still very uneasy with it. So until the 17 of August I will be anxiously looking to read other's outings.

Now c'mon girls, you know you have been wanting to get out so I'm giving you a good reason: One of your sisters might go into serious withdrawal over the next few weeks and you need to help her cope with her pain. So get out your best party dress, set yourself in front of that makeup mirror, pick out your favorite wig and get all dolled up!

Then come back here and tell us all about it! PLEEEEEASE!

Love,
Julie

PS: Jacki invited me to go out with her tomorrow, the brat. The Island Girls are having their monthly social at the place we were Friday an I can't go :sad:

HOW ON EARTH AM I GOING TO MAKE IT TO THE 17th??????? !!arg!!
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Julie, honey, can we cry on eachother's shoulders??
My son was discharged from the Army on disability (after about a year). He and his wife are now living in our basement with their nutty dog. We now have the prospect of having one of his friends who is a nice kid but evidently having trouble "finding himself." His father is a local Dr., divorced (don't know what is going on there.) Anyway he may be moving in with us for a while, too. Now the house that I have been renovating which was my escape. Don't laugh, but I would go over there, dress in all but make-up and go to work. Painting, plumbing, wiring, plastering, carpentery, high heels and all. Actually it was kinda neat, as I found myself being much more "protective" of myself, and taking more time than I usually would. Another upside was I think I have gotten quite good at doing most anything in 3" heels. I also have used stick on nails and it has made me very conscious of where I put my hands. Haven't hit a finger with the hammer since. Now the roofers are there and may be for a week or so.
My latest escape was since my wife hates our boat, I went our by myself Saturday. I have a 23" Cuddy Cabin so I changed on the boat. Forms, a bit of make-up, wig, blue wrap around mini and a pink bra that would pass for a bathing suit top and down the lake I went. The forms were wonderful, hit waves wakes of other boats and they bounced so sexy, but my main "test" was the wig, I wanted to see if it would stay on with out a "wig cap" and it did. Boating is much like driving, no one really pays much attention to who or what is around them, just like in cars. Got one horn blast at me, but other than that it was fairly uneventful. I will try it again this week-end if no one want to go out with me.
Havin' some fun now! I can' t bench as I have evidently really screwed up my shoulder and I don't have a meet until October, but may not ever get back to 400+.
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Hi,
Deborah, loved your story! Julie M., what pictures and experiences.

Julie M. I loved the part when the woman at the bar told you it was great you dressed but were still yourself.

I have been stressed at work again. I called in this morning, first time since March. I played hooky. I shaved and prettied up myself a bit. Mascara, light make-up, pink lip gloss. I dressed male and went and got my monthly pedicure. The girls all know me and are quite friendly. I stopped trying to explain myself many months back. I just go and enjoy.
I got black polish and a pretty flower design. They are quite lovely. I wore nice sandals.

Then I went shopping. I went to the book store, several mall stores, bath and beauty, card shop, and jewelry store. At "Debs" clothes for larger sizes, I found a couple lovely empire dresses. Women, teenagers and husbands and wives were shopping. I walked to stalls and asked politely if I could try these. The middle age woman smiled and said certainly and unlocked a dressing stall beside a teenage girl and her daughter. I tried them on and they fit beautifully. No one stared or sneered or ignored me. I felt as if I was just another customer. I payed and the woman told me to have a nice day and that I was welcome back. On two other occassions I tried clothes on in that store this year. I wonder if the clerks are trained to be sensitive to the needs of cross-dressers and trans-gendered people?

I have been out dressed a few times, but haven't worked up enough confidence yet to get toes done en fem or go to stores regularly and interact with clerks en fem. I did go in a few stores dressed two different times this winter. I don't yet have the confidence like you and other girls to go out and have fun. Hopefully, someday. Summer clothes also scare me more than winter garb.

Thanks everyone for sharing your experiences.

Kersten
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Kersten,
Honey, you kinda lost me! You put on some light make-up and went out and had your toes done, then went shopping for dresses. You tried on several dresses in the shop then bought a couple of them. I'm thinking , I'm thinking. Is it because you have a concern over being "outed" if you were to go through the same thing fully dressed?? Do you think people are more excepting of someone (partically made-up) than someone fully dressed? :-k Yes, I do believe that stores do now train their employees to be accepting of TS/TG/CD. No offense, but the clerk(s) knew you were a guy trying on dresses???? If that is the situation, its very interesting! I have bought feminine things "en drab" most of us have, but to try them on, yes interesting. I look forward to you response it will be very helpful.
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Hi,
Julie M., I'm very sorry you can't go. I can see how much you have been enjoying yourself. You are very adult to deny yourself for the good of your family. Things can change, but reading you, it seems like the reality for you now.

Deborah, you ask a hard question. The better I get at freeing my inner soul the worse I see myself from my past. I was a mean, judgemental, bigoted person trying to let out the kindness in me. There were only short and small periods where I was happy with what I did and thought. From the frame work that remains and the new fame work everyone is helping me to build, I see myself as more of a threat to those around me when fully dressed and trying to pass.

I have said before that I have a huge adams apple and don't know how to hide it. I was finding I felt reasonably sure people would have to guess whether I was male or female. I wore turtle necks and a coat. I asked this question before and got so busy I lost where I posted it and was embarassed to ask for advice a second time. I tried the search and I must not be smart enough to manipulate it to find my post.

I guess I feel somehow that I am less treatening in drap because they don't have to wonder what I do or where I go to the bathroom. Bathroom discussions here have been unconclusive for me. I loved Ally McBeil. I like the unisex bathrooms. People at work I know felt it was further eroding away morals in the USA. A third bathroom would be great to satisfy everyone, but will never happen. To do so would mean accepting that we have a right to exist. I feel I am not putting the whole package in front of people. It is rediculous but I feel I am changing society one step at a time. I don't know, it may yet be me who is changing one step at a time.

I appreciate your concern for me. Thanks.
Kersten
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WOW!

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Thanks ladies, I knew you'd come through I just didn't think so soon! But don't stop! I still have 14 days left! (Yikes!)

Kersten,

Very neat experience. I go out dressed but still buy all my clothes en drab and never ask anyone to try them on in the store. I just keep my fingers crossed that the sizes are true. Then if they don't fit I'm too chicken to return them, Go figure.

Deborah,

I think we are from similar molds. I do all my own around the house work too but have yet to challenge myself like you have and do it dressed. What a brave soul you are. I work construction and see what happens to my clothes during the day. I'm told I am the cleanest construction worker anyone has ever seen but I still get dirty. I could never do that to my girl clothes. I don't have enough of them yet.

The part about the boat made my heart soar! *sink* I love boats and plan on selling the house and retiring on one when the time comes. I can't count the times I have daydreamed about being dressed while sailing on the water. I have sailed the Great Lakes and from Florida to the Bahamas and back. There's nothing to compare with it, unless you're wearing your favorite bikini too!

Keep the stories coming. I'm loving every minute of it. =D>

Love,
Julie
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Kersten,
Yes the adam's apple can be a deterent, but as you have tried, the turtle neck or I have beautiful red silk blouse with a high button collar on it that works. I see several models in various magazines with scarfs around their neck or a wide chocker. Of course the scarf or turtle neck does not work in the summer, but the high collar blouse or chocker may. And yes I think you are probably doing both, changing yourself and society. I am proud of you - keep the faith.
Love,
Deborah
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Kersten, i don't thnk you understand that you are a pioneer, you don't give yourself credit, when a great deal of credit belongs to you. I amazed at you going into a shop to try dresses on, I am a wreck just walking by the lingerie dept at Penny's. Then I get so nervous, just buying a bra and pantie set, and you try on dresses and so it goes. Trying them on would be ( time for a defibilator ) way to much for me or a dress or shoes, I did once ask for help at sears (lingerie=dept) that for me was a major step, I figure at the rate I am going by 2025 I'll be able to try a dress on in the store. You are way ahead girl, you are an inspiration to me, something to strive and do what Kersten does. Way cool, girl . Give your self a great big pat on back , hips or fanny. Thanks for being here to show us how it is done.. Love and hugs ....Kristen
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Kristen wrote:Kersten, Thanks for being here to show us how it is done.. Love and hugs ....Kristen
I agree totally with everything Kristen said, just walking near to the shop outside is hard enough for me let alone going inside, and then trying dresses on! You go girl! *hugs*

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I made it! (I think)

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Well I think I made it. It's Saturday night and midnight has just passed and I went the weekend without going crazy or dressing, and that's subject to interpretation. But it's not without a crisis or two.

Thursday I had packed a bag with all my girl stuff "just in case". I guess it was a survival bag. Friday I beat myself up all day at work about my promise to my wife. I knew it was just an overreaction to all this that has been pent up inside me for so long and it would reach an equilibrium soon. But common sense wasn't working. I keep thinking how unbelievably happy I am when dressed. Then I think how repulsed my family is at that sight.

My life has changed so much it hurts. I remember a scene from the movie "Naked Prey" where they pulled down the branches of two tall trees and tied them down to the ground, their limbs straining to become upright again. They took one of their captives and tied his arms and legs to the branches. Then they cut the ropes.

That's how I feel everyday.

Every up has it's down and every down has it's up. I know it will get better. Right now it's tough. My wife understands me better. My daughter is SO SPECIAL! and my son hopefully will come around.

It's amazing how much better you feel if you allow yourself to cry. I cry a lot now, mostly alone. I never cried before.

Who knows, maybe someone is trying to teach me something.

Tolerence of others? That would be a good lesson!

One thing I do know is I meet the most special people here.

Thanks for listening.

Julie
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Hi all,

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Julie, I know you can get through this, only 9 more days. Hang in there we are all pulling for you.......Kristen
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Oh wow! Where have I been?

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I must be slipping because I can't believe I didn't update this after my SIX WEEK !!!! abstinence.

Well, two weeks ago Jacki and I went out. Jacki’s wife was out of town so I went to her house to change. Even though my son is “away” at college he has been home for the weekend three times! So the house hasn’t really changed. Anyway I am ready first and I have to wait for Jacki. So I took some pictures of me in my new black leather mini. I realized later when I saw them I need to dress more age appropriately. I have always wanted a leather mini but the time to wear it has long passed. I’ll probably just put it under glass and hang it on the wall in remembrance! The pictures are posted on my website.

We went to The Edge and of course Escapades. Rudy, who I thought was the owner, (he was the manager) is gone as is Steve. The owners saw fit to revamp the place but all they did was paint and replace the bartenders??????

The new manager is Keith. A nice guy but not the charmer Rudy was. Still he seemed to go overboard making us feel at home. I swear I am treated so much better en femme than in guy mode! I really don’t enjoy going out at all en drab. I feel so plain. But when en femme it almost feels like I’m accepted by everyone. Maybe my personality changes and I am a more open person? No matter, I prefer going out en femme any day of the week. I wish I could do it all the time.

So Jacki and I close the place, as usual, and while in the parking lot we are stopped by a guy who is dating a transsexual (who was with him). I have seen her before but never talked to her. So we talked for a while until the sun came up. He told me I had a sexy deep voice. I told him that was the first and last time I will ever hear that! My voice is pretty deep and not feminine at all! I then turned to her and asked her about growing up and the feelings she had. She told me that she had always wanted to be a woman. There was never any doubt. I liked hearing that because I have had many doubts and that tells me to just leave things as they are. We then head back to Jacki’s where I spend the night in the guest room. Jacki crashes on the couch.

Several hours later I awake and realize it’s time to go. I have been helping my son’s wrestling coach remodel his basement and I told him and his wife I would be there around 11 AM. It was 9:30 and I was still very much en femme! So I quickly removed my makeup and took a shower. I then dashed home and changed into work clothes (including blue jeans to hide my shaved legs) and headed over there. When I got there I was still hung over and told them about being out with the “boys” until 6 AM. No, they don’t know. I got this funny look from both him and his wife. The first thing I thought was MASCARA! Did I get it all off? Oh well, too late now. I work until 8 PM and was so tired I fell asleep on their couch just after eating dinner, still sitting upright!

The next morning while laying in bed my wife turns to me and asks, “Did you go out again last night?” (it was Labor Day weekend). I said no. She said, “Well you have mascara on.” OOPS! I guess I know why the coach and his wife looked at me that way now! Nothing was said the next time I went over there but I have come to learn it’s just better to let things lie.

Trying to keep Julie a secret is getting harder and harder!

Julie
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9-17-04

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So Friday Jacki and I again get out. I was planning on dressing at home as my wife is okay with it as long as my son isn't around. Then on Thursday she said she got a call and he's coming home, again!

It was Jacki and I again doing it up! We got a room for changing since my son's home for the weekend and then headed out to the Edge in Blue Island. At first it was sort of slow. The last time we were there it seemed the same, not a real lot happening. We were talking about leaving then this TGirl walks out of the basement door. I talk to her and she tells me there's a talent show tonight she's hosting.

So the host asks us if we want to be judges. I tell her Jacki's the fashion maven and is a perfect choice for a judge. I really wasn't sure what the show was going to be then. So as it begins I find out it's singing. There were three TGirls performing, one as Pink, one as Cher and one as Brittany Spears. They all lip-synched their respective songs and were to be judged on how well they did their celebrity. Cher almost looked like the real Cher and did a really great job of imitating her. Here's the pictures of the performers as well as one of me and Jacki with Cher who won the contest.

We met some very nice GGs there. It's funny, you would think two men dressed as women in a gay bar would attract men but it seems we attract women instead, which is fine with me! One girl I talked to was smitten with .................... my camera! I guess she's into photography and wants to get a digital camera. One time she raced across the room just as I was about to take a picture of Jacki with “Cher”. "Here, you want to be in the picture too, right" she said as she removed the camera from my hands. And she took a few pics of the three of us together.

After we left The Edge we went to Escapades. It was really dead when we got there but it usually fills up after the other bars close and sure enough it wasn't long before it was packed.

I was tapped on the shoulder and I turned around to see Rhonda. She, just like last time I saw her, was with the same two friends, Dawn and Wendy. We talked for a while then she went to sit with her friends at a table. Later Dawn walks up to me at the bar and tells me how hot I look. She tells me I look better than she could ever look (she's dead wrong!) and just goes on about how hot I look. Well naturally I'm flattered. The last time she really wouldn't even talk much to me. She and Wendy were too busy making out! Oh, to be a lesbian! Then Dawn turns to Jacki and compliments her on her looks. We were both in red and I think Dawn likes red.

As the night goes on I go over to their table and talk some more with Rhonda. She seems to have a thing for me even though I’ probably old enough to be her dad… or mom! Then Dawn comes up to me and with eyes wide open tells me I look like Karen Black. The last time I saw them she had said the same thing but that time she was spooked by it. She would look at me and act freaked out then hide her face so as not to see me. This time she says I look like Karen Black but that it was a good thing because she thought Karen Black was a pretty woman. All I think of is Karen Black in that movie Trilogy of Terror and that spooks me out!

Jacki is uncharacteristically tired so we leave before the bar closes. A first! All in all it was another fun night. I had wanted to go to this lesbian bar because I love being surrounded with women but it ended up that Jacki and I spent almost the entire night with women! Cool! As usual the night was too short. I'm going to have to find a way to slow time or start the evening earlier.

I also have pictures of the night posted on the other forum. For some reason I can’t put them here as it won’t take web addresses with “https” as the start.

http://www.crossdressers.com/forums/sho ... .php?t=899

See y'all later!
Julie
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