Education or Enrichment?

How are you dealing with or handling this aspect of your life?

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Where do you place the most value ,and why?

I place more value on the enrichment of my life.
10
59%
I place more value on the education of society.
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6%
Other (please explain?)
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35%
 
Total votes: 17
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Post by Beauty »

Hi Darlene,

Saying you empathize kind of makes it seem like those who may that choice made a futile choice. Did you mean a word other than empathize?

I didn't vote because I have no idea. LOL. If you put a gun to my head and asked I'd guess it would be, "Goodnight cruel world" for me because I don't know if there is an answer that can be chosen based on a true outlook vs. how you feel about it today.

Anyhoo. ignore the second paragraph. Can you please clarify pour moi what you meant by empathize? :mrgreen:

Thanks!!! :)
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Post by Loretta Ann »

Beauty,

It's not about making a choice, it is about being in line with who you are. If I can refer to my post "More info on who we are" It brings to light that there are different degrees (if you will) of this thing we call Transgender.

And where ever you are under that umbrella will determine what choices you make and what your needs are. Where I fit simply allows me to meet my needs easier than some of the others. As I can not see how educating society would improve my personal enrichment in the least.

What I meant by empathy = The action of understanding, being aware of, being sensitive, and vicariously experiencing the feelings, thoughts, and experiance of another, without having the feelings, thoughts, and experiance fully communicated in an objectively explicit manner.


I hope you find this explanation satisfactory?
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Post by Elizabeth »

Darlene,

Interestingly enough, and you may find this hard to beleive, but I empathize with those who share your point of view.

Not just on this one issue about educating others about crossdressing, but about making society in general my business.

I coached little league football for many years, and was on the board that made the rules. It was my intention to influence our youth in a positive way. And making it more fair by being on the board and getting rules changed that favored gifted athletes.

I have helped people recover from drug addition. I have helped people to better themselves at work so they could prosper and improve thier lives. And it was incredibly fulfilling. Were there disapointments? You bet. And they could have been avoided had I not interjected myself. But to me the sense of being a part of this whole thing, and contributing in a positive way is who I am.
Darlene wrote:

Speaking for myself (although I suspect that there are others who feel the same way) I believe your journey is more difficult than mine.
I suspect this is because of what you were saying about it being who you are. For me, your way would be harder. I have not chosen the harder journey for me, I have chosen the one that fulfills me. So to not be fulfilled would be a much harder journey for me. You do not feel this need, so to you it is wasted effort, I suspect. I don't mean to presume what you think, just trying to grasp what you have said.

For me an action to reach out and connect with others, and to get them to understand me is more about the action than the success. I know I won't reach everyone, but I also know that everyone will not be reached. For me those few victories are very fullfilling and make it time well spent. For me it is not a failure because I failed to reach a specific person, or did reach everyone.

So perhaps what we need is not to feel empathy for one another, but to understand that our journey takes different roads, each chosing the one that is easiest for themselves. Just as you would not walk my road, I also can not walk yours. I think that is what you were saying in your last post?

Love always,
Elizabeth
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Post by Jassmine(SO) »

Howdy Darlene ..o)..
Darlene wrote:Well ladies....Let me first thank you all for your replies.

Then let me convey the empathy I have for those of you who have a need to educate in order to be enriched.

I believe this is directly influenced by who you are, in reference to what you need to do in order to get your needs met.

Speaking for myself (although I suspect that there are others who feel the same way) I believe your journey is more difficult than mine.

I believe it is easier for me to find enrichment than it is for some others.

And that is some thing I have learned from you all here on this forum.

Again Thank You.


Ah, you are welcome :)

I agree partially as I am a natural born "helper". This being the case, I do indeed need to fulfill that part of my nature or I am just not a happy camper :wink: But, it is only one of the ways I have available to me to enrich my life. I find communing with nature, learning a new skill, making new friends, laughing, etc....Enriching, as well. Helping others only satisfies a part of my being. I have found that for me to be truly happy, I need to find ways to satisfiy the rest of my being, too. :)

I wouldn't say that this makes my journey any more difficult than anyone else's. I think that we all have different core needs and natures we have to satisfy to lead a happy and fulfilling life :) I think the challenge lies in figuring out just what those core needs are.

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Post by Loretta Ann »

Hi all,

Some how we seem to have gotten away from the intent of my post. The intent of the question was do you need to educate society about the cross-dressing issue in order to enrich yourself? In other words can your life be enriched as a direct result of the activity of cross-dressing, or do you need the acceptance of society (about the fact that you are a cross-dresser) before you can find enrichment?

It would appear to me that those who need acceptance from society would have a harder struggle No? I have no desire or need to go out cross-dressed (other than perhaps in some situations convenience) So therefore that is something I need not worry about. No need for make up, no need for voice lessons, no need to pass, no need for hair removal, no need for the expense of breast forms or Breast development, and on and on. Sure seems that my load is lighter.

As for the other points some of you make, I am involved in continuous activity out side of cross-dressing that help to make this a better world. I have equal connectedness to women, and men I view and treat them as being equal. Simply human beings. I have lot of respect for some women, for the same reasons I respect some men. I have discovered however that some woman can not handle everything that comes with being treated equal, but that is a separate topic by itself. One I do not wish to discuss in this thread.
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