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i hear to her.well,i am a Cd from 5 y old,my wife know and accept of,my life it s strangebut happy,from early years coexist with my gender so well,my CDs eyes opened to many aspect of the life,i enjoy my life,.
she sayed ,no problem in your mind,you want only find a lot of Mum,your target it s female robes,bicouse you want a lot of MUmmy with you,.
ok ,....me:it s possible!but i have a lot of sexy pleasure with clothing also,yes more.. in the adolescent times.She:yes but you aren t deviated you don t like meet sex with same sex.NO i anwer (ok im not Gay,i m sure,i m hetero,but it s a Gay boy a deviated?.i think not...?) [-X
She:your sexy pleasure it s like a game,(really ,i like a lot play games)
also i ask her:it s CrossDressing borned..it s genetics?.She:NO it s only a sweet game only for you..
:shock: but te TG?CD?cogiati test result-135? :shock:

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Hi Lucia,

Although fantasy does play a huge role in my cross-dressing, I don't think she is qualified to help people like us. For many I think it is much more than a game.

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A game???. A game??? Not here!!! Virginia is deadly serious - No this is not a game, it is life - real life - for me and a lot of my sisters - a really beautiful life and I for one would not have it any other way!!!
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Hi Lucia--
I'd have to agree with Darlene and Virginia. Some parts of CDing are like a game, but it's more than that. It's not a hobby, either, which is another way I've heard it described.

It's good to be talking to someone about it, anyway. That always seems like a good step, to me. Just don't let her "sell" you on something that doesn't really fit you.
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I think you need a new psycologist. This one does not understand transgender issues.

You've been CD since age 5 and thus it is clearly not a game. Just because you enjoy it, that does not make it a game.

I'm not sure why you need to see a psycologist, but if it is to find out more about being transgendered, she is not going to be able to help you, im my humble opinion.
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need i a psicologist ?no

want know more TGs?yes

in since i have meet a doctor bicouse my CDlife it s out my closed,a man lived near my house chaugted me from a window,told he ,every one in my small city?i think yes..this event was for me like a dead,1 year ago',so.from this time ,when i meet peoples ,i hav suspect know of my CDS,every strain smail,in the people face can show know about my CDs.
so i live in the fear.
How i can resolve this question?

Psicologist,young but honest,she sayed talking with another CDs every weeks,say me .to confront people meet me and if smile or..well Police?Law,,.ho ,yes it s ,but not easy,to do.


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Try and learn all you can. When confronted, ask the person if they'd like to talk about it, while smiling. Show no fear. If they don't want to talk ask why not. It won't rub off on them :mrgreen:

See the following web pages to read and learn.

http://www.geocities.com/senorita_cd/menu.htm
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As I understand it, your counselor suggested that crossdressing is only:

--1. An attempt to re-create 'mommy' and have her near, and

--2. An attempt to feel pleasure

Both of these are part of crossdressing. That much should be admitted. But to see crossdressing *only* in these terms is a big mistake. There are other complex and serious issues.

I think you should consider finding a counselor who understands the psychological theories of Carl Jung.

In fairnesss, one should add that what you think your counselor said and what your counselor actually said might be very different.

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p.s. In my opinion the Cogiati test is useless.
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Hi Lucia

I agree with the other responses . This psycologist lacks expertise for transgendered issues.
I think that most of us can attest to the fact that for as long we can remember we have had the urge to dress in womens clothing...It is not a game but an integeral part of one's personality.
I'm not suggestiing she is a bad psycologist. She has probably helped a lot of people with their emotional problems. I am suggesting however she lacks a certain background for dealing with and advising transgendered people.
All I can suggest Lucia is perhaps you could get a referral fom the psycologist or your family doctor to someone, possibly a gender therapist who is more EDUCATED in matters of gender identity.

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thank Joselle
I agree with the other responses . This psycologist lacks expertise for transgendered issues


me too

thanks to Cathy Anderson,DonnaT and..Ladies ,in since i have only need to not fear prevents peoples judices,i have fear bicouse my CDs its out in the street ,a very very tankS to the family lived near my house,..
But Maybe my psicologist have a right opinion,i haven t problem about my CD ,yes really,
only a little fear,
i shall work on cognitive therapy,i shall know inside the peoples meet me.. :mrgreen:

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From what I can tell people cross dress for a lot of different reasons. Some because they feel they are really a person of the opposite sex but do not want to undergo surgery. Others because they feel that their gender is ambiguous. These are people for whom this is a very serious thing.

There are others for whom it is a lot about sex. Or about feeling close to the person who's clothes you might be borrowing. Or about art if you are a performer. And there are other reasons. Perhaps there are as many reasons as there are crossdressers although I think there are some basic themes.

Understanding ourselves is important but even more important. may be accepting ourselves. Often we feel that if we can understand the reason for something we can better accept it but this is not always true.

I have always had a real active imagination and a busy inner life. Often my fantasies ahve something to do with something else that is going on inside me that I don't quite know about. For me this is like a game or a hobby rendered more serious due to it's secrecy. When I read about getting in touch with my feminine side or being in the wrong body I do not really identify with this. However it is also something I have done since I was 8 years old and I am now in my 50's so it is definitly a par tof me and not a passing whim.

Yes it started out with feelings about my mother among other things but it is something else now. Still mostly feelings about women I guess. My interest in it waxes and wanes over time but never goes away.

I say that for me this is like a game because that is what feels true for me. I am not disputing what anyone else might say about themselves; who am I to even have an opinion. My reason for offering my experience and feelings is that maybe someone is reading this and will recognize themselves in this rather than some of what other people have posted. I can imagine the outrage someone might feel having something that for them is gut level life and death being described by another as a hobby or game and I would probably feel the same if I were them. The key here is that I accept who and what I am as opposed to what anyone else might think I ought to be.

Perhaps someone will identify with this. No doubt some will not. Take what you like and leave the rest and I hope I have been helpful.

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i shall work on cognitive therapy

That is a quite interesting suggestion. Cognitive therapy might work well for crossdressing. Clearly it can help address issues of guilt and shame. But it can probably also help with "compulsive" aspects of crossdressing.

A person can learn to examine their mind when they feel the urge to crossdress and ask "What is it I really want? What specifically do I want now from crossdressing? Is it the act of wearing women's clothes, or is it a feeling I want. If it is a feeling, can I name it?" And so on. Then perhaps then can say, "Okay, I accept this urge, and give myself two hours (or whatever) to dress as a woman. Then I 'return' to male mode."

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thank you ,i want hear with you sometime,

ok we have a right opinion about cognitive terapy ,bue can you explain what is "compulsive" aspects of crossdressing. ?

what 's compulsive? the urge?the need to trhilling buying our sweet clothes?

the urge to find our female side,every already in our closed?

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Personally, I found cognitive therapy extremely helpful, particularly after having tried various other forms of psychotherapy, all of which which tried to get me to regress and understand the initial urges which led me to start crossdressing (at about the age of 2-3). Understanding those issues didn't change anything for me, so months of therapy were a complete waste of time, and I felt just as confused and unhappy afterwards, as I had beforehand.

Cognitive therapy, on the other hand, showed me that the reasons why I crossdressed were truly irrelelvant; more importantly, however, was the fact that it enabled me to see myself in a new light, and to be comfortable with myself as I am. So, I crossdress; so what! OK, I don't go out and broadcast this fact, but I now live my life as I want to, and I am not concerned how others view it -- except for my wife, of course, but I told her about it on our second date, some 30 years ago now, so she has long since accepted me for what I am.

I think a lot of the problem that CDers face is the way that they view themselves. All to often it is a negative view -- I'm a pervert, a freak, whatever negative frame of reference you like. That's the real problem, in my opinion. But I'm not saying that we should overcompensate by making out that it's normal, or just a harmless pastime, or that it makes one a better person, or whatever, either. I don't think there's any need for either positive or negative attitudes, because after all, we don't need to develop an attitude about being born with white or black skin, being only 5 feet 2 inches tall, having curly hair, or whatever. We just accept those things as a given, and get on with living our lives; since I adopted that attitude regarding CDing, I haven't had any problems with it.

In short, it's how you view yourself that matters, not what others (including your therapist) thinks of you that matters.

If you wish to find out more about cognitive therapy, and in particular how it can help, I recommend the following 2 books:-

"Cognitive Therapy and the Emotional disorders", by Aaron T. Beck, ISBN 0-14-015689-5 (This is buy the 'father' of CBT, and is fairly academic)

"Feeling Good: The New Mood Therapy", by David D. Burns, ISBN 0-380-73176-2 (this is a practical manual for self-help, by one of Beck's followers), and I can thoroughly recommend it).

I wish you well.
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Hi all,

Lucia,

You might find the following sites useful:

http://www.cognitivetherapy.com/basics.html

http://www.ipsico.org/pccfaq2.htm (in Italian)

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