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How Deep Does it Go?
Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2004 1:13 pm
by Celly
I know this will probably sound very strange to most of you, as well as the SO's who share our lives, but...
For a long, long time I've been aware of a cyclic manifestation of the urges to be completely feminine. Years ago, when I lived by myself, I even went so far as to mark a calendar in an attempt to identify these times. I found they approximated a female's monthly hormonal cycle with many of the same symptoms, albeit not those associated with female reproductive equipment. Emotional roller coaster, increased libido, breast tenderness, weight gain, irritability and sometimes tears at the hint of small, insignificant things. Although I did experiment with hormones for a while, this was considerably before I ventured into that area.
Although I haven't embarked on the "calendar marking" process in recent years, I'm still very aware of these cycles and how they affect me.
Has anyone else experienced this?
Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2004 4:30 pm
by Virginia
Wow, Celly, I don't think I have, however having read some of Carl Jung's studies it isn't uncommon evidently for some of us to experience these cycles. If you are interested you may want to do some more research on it. I am not a psychologist, and not knowing your age, and how the "mid-life crisis" affect some of us, who knows, but it interesting that you noticed them enough to try and track them. If you are still having them, I would definitely research why and depending on how you feel about having these cycles, you best can deal with them how you want once you better understand them. Keep us posted as to how this goes.
Love,
Deborah
Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2004 6:45 pm
by Celly
I am considerably past any mid-life considerations and I don't know if the cycles are as predictable as they were in the past but they're still there. I guess I've just come to accept them as part of my life. I've been to several counseling fiascoes but have never found a therapist I would consider asking about this phenomenon. I live in a very narrow-thinking part of the world and the rule here is to keep such things to yourself.
I just wondered whether anyone else had experienced this particular manifestation of their womanhood.
Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2004 9:03 pm
by Beauty
I've never heard of the physical changes, but I have heard of men who are transgendered having the mental changes.
Women joke about noon TG'd men having this happen all the time.
Beauty
Cycles
Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2004 9:13 am
by Julie M.
My wife was the one who pointed out my cycles but it wasn't monthly it was yearly. It seemed every fall I would get very strong urges that almost drove me up a wall. At those times I was honestly thinking of sex change. Then I hit a point where that didn't happen anymore. Then it came back. I was baffled. The only thing I could think of at the time was the fall brought about a time of the year when crossdressing was easier for me. The temperature was cooler and so wigs, padding, etc. weren't too hot to wear. I could wear clothing that covered up body hair easier and if I shaved I could wear cover-up guy clothes to hide I did.
Then one day I noticed a pattern. I have seasonal allergies. I used to take OTC medications then finally went to the doctor and started taking Allegra, Claritin, etc. I no longer took the OTC meds. The day I noticed a pattern was after I had run out of the prescription meds I picked up some OTC meds. Sudafed was one of them. I found when I was on the OTC meds, especially Sudafed, my urges got considerably stronger. After getting a new prescription and stopping the OTC meds, it went back to normal. I know this sounds crazy but I have done this over and over and I'm convinced there's a link.
I have looked for any other cycles but have yet to notice any.
BTW Celly, how long were you on girl juice? Did you experience any physical changes? What was your emotional state of mind while on them? I'm just asking because I delved into the juice also and I'd like to know what others who have experienced.
Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2004 9:22 am
by Erica Shade
I do find that I tend to get moody at certain times of the month. Maybe its just because my wife is moody and it rubs off on me. But I think I will start to document how I feel during the month.
Nuff Luv,
Erica Shade
Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2004 4:41 am
by Joanna_S
I haven´t noticed any monthly cycle but the need to dress is usually much stronger in the autumn and in winter when I dress several times a week and think about it all the time

In the summer I have a lot of other activities and the summer is also the busiest time of the year at work.
When I was younger I had these thoughts of being "cured" of crossdressing ´cause I survived several weeks without dressing and felt quite ok with it. Now I´m older and wiser and happy that I can´t be cured and the urge always comes back.

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2004 7:54 am
by RikkiOfLA
Wow, this is an incredibly deep, interesting conversation!
I hope my humble contribution doesn't sound trite by comparison.
Autumn seems to have the prettiest clothes! I always assumed that was why my dressing urges picked up that time of year. Summer's great, but nothing quite matches the new fall clothes each year--skirts, hosiery, new shoes, boots coming out again, more materials, jackets--the whole thing!
Because it's cooler, you can wear more.
So I always assumed that was why my strongest dressing urges came then. Maybe there's something more to it?
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Sudafed! Hey, that is nasty stuff!
The Food and Drug Administration just BANNED the natural version of it, ephedra. Health food stores had been selling LOTS of it as a "diet pill".
Ephedra, ephedrine, pseudo-ephedrine, sudafed--it's really a powerful stimulant. And yes, it's addictive if people start to abuse it. It's the main ingredient to making methamphetamine. People from illegal Meth labs just walk into the drug store and buy sudafed, then take it home and cook it up into meth! They don't allow THAT anymore of course. (If you don't believe me, try going to the drug store and fill your shopping cart with sudafed and see what happens!)
Don't worry about me trying that, btw. I'm allergic to the stuff--it gives me heart palpitations! Yikes!
Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2004 9:24 am
by Ricci
I have noticed a monthly cycle. There has been some research done that suggest that men have cyclic changes in in chemical/hormonal balance and I guess that really isn't to surprising. Mine make me feel somewhat the same, without the physical discomfort. Feelings of melancolia, emotional sensitivity etc. Perhaps because we are so close to our femininity there is a stronger emotional and physical connection to our bodies that affect our chemical balances or vice versa??
I too, would like to hear more from those girls who have used 'girl juice'..I love that. I still am searching for some answers. Also to pick up on another thread, does anyone have any thoughts about the suggestion that CDing can be something that is an onset of a mid life crisis. I feel rather mystified by this, but maybe there is some basis and if so why do you think so?? Look forwardto your thoughts!
I haven't submitted for a while but have been voracious about keeping up with all. We are an amazing, beautiful, intelligent, caring and loving group of girls and I am so glad and honored to have you in my life.
Love, happiness and respect to everyone!
Ricci
Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2004 7:19 pm
by Anne
I like Fall also as I like the clothes the best.....
Sudafed has done wierd things to me too - makes me constipated - never the 12 hour kind - I'll explode
Anne
Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2004 7:41 pm
by Beauty
Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2004 7:58 pm
by Anne
Velma from the latest Scooby Doo 2 - I've tried to find Linda Cardellini in more pics of this outfit. Way funny to watch her wear it.
Posted: Sat May 01, 2004 12:27 pm
by Danielle La Belle
To save you reading time, no I do not have nor do I know anyone that cycles monthly as in a women’s menstrual cycle coupled with hormonal changes specifically.
My input:
I try to provide accurate information that can be verified back to a respectable source. In regards to “cycling,” we all as both male and female have biological cycles. Both genders are affected by the seasons and the related tree pollen, rag-weed pollen etc. Even one that during their lifetime did not sense being sensitive to such irritations, can become noticeably sensitive at any given time on their life line.
On the subject of a “monthly” cycle, routinely for the male of the species, there are some studies that remark about the fact that men’s hormone levels can fluctuate as they do with genetic women. The chemical changes that you may also experience, are for the most part, experienced by people that have been diagnosed as being “bi-polar” in personality.
People with this condition have highs and lows to extremes at times and then others, only mild swings that do not require any medication. Bi-polar people are extremely sensitive to chemical changes brought on by a host of OTC meds. If they have high-blood pressure, they also must be careful of the various OTC meds that address the use of nasal passage constrictors like “Sudafed” and others.
No one wants to be labeled “bi-polar” but there are people that meet this description. My 32 yr old son is one of those. My spouse and several of her kin meet the basic description of this condition and cycle seasonally in personality and behavior. Studies are being done to track the genetic factors of this condition by the University of St. Louis Medical School of Psychiatry.
Since people affected buy this condition demonstrate several different types of personality fluctuations, who can rightfully say that you would not effectively suffer from a regular monthly hormonal balancing act. This is not to say that you might be “bi-polar” or that I am in an educated position to make that assessment.
You make mention that you have seen several people with a “therapy” background. If you are searching for someone to validate your feelings, that may be difficult to find. People in that field typically are understanding individuals but it is their job to remain aloof and disconnected from your treatment so as to provide an unbiased opinion of your progress and treatment plan.
If you are still with me, think about when your neighbor bought a new car and comes by after the fact to ask your opinion. He/she is not wanting your judgment, rather, they want you to make them feel justified in spending all that money and their choice in manufacturer, model, and color. It is called “buyers remorse.”
Do not expect people in the “therapy” corner of the world to take on that task. They won’t if they are truly interested in helping you find yourself. If you wish to examine the possibility of your “cycling” because of your desire to be or feelings of being female, then a harmless test would be to employ the use of a mild OTC product called, “ESTROVEN.” The Wal-Mart “equate” equivalent brand, is reasonable in price, around $5.00 for a 30 day supply. All natural, proven effective through trials, these work for many women. You will need to take them for about 90 days to see if they have any impact.
There are no known side-effects, and the amount of “black cohosh” is only 40mg. This agent can cause headaches if taken in sufficient quantity (540mg daily), so 40mg daily is considered very safe.
The OTC med is of course for hormonal changes in women due to estrogen level fluctuation. While you may not directly suffer from that hormone deficiency, it may help balance other factors for you.
No one at this time can say for sure but it is one of the least invasive, accepted, herbal formulas that seems to work for genetic women of course.
I am not a doctor of medicine, so with all the legal jargon included, this in no way is a recommendation. The final result will be of your own doing.
Hugs
Danielle
Posted: Sat May 01, 2004 2:42 pm
by Lorna
Anne wrote:Velma from the latest Scooby Doo 2 - I've tried to find Linda Cardellini in more pics of this outfit. Way funny to watch her wear it.
She's sexy! I think she's prettier than Sarah Michelle Gellar.
