OK, dumb question for the ya'll...There's a local girl near me that's in DESPERATE need of help, with her makeup, clothes, all that jazz...All she's interested in doing is 'meeting up' for some kind of casual sexual encounter...I can't help but feel sorry for her, for not being 'put together', but at the same time, I'm still repulsed by her only seeing her CD'ing as a sexual turn-on, a means to an orgasm and nothing more?
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Helping a local girl vs. 'she got issues!'
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Michelle Miller
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Helping a local girl vs. 'she got issues!'
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Virginia
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Well, based on your description, our "she" is actually a male prostitute, in drag.
Evidently, you know this person, have talked to them or have seen them and just feel sorry for them??
If you feel comfortable enough, I'd invite them to have a cup of coffee or something else non-discript, and get to know them if they are willing to share. But needless to say, be careful, people who are reduced to that standard of life can be desperate, mentally ill, who knows.
If you do get to sit down with them, I have no doubt you would know what to say, like how dangerous their chosen lifestyle is, etc, but if they persist, and again you feel comfortable with them offer to help them with their appearance. You probably can't change their lifestyle, but perhaps make it easier for them.
I know some of my sisters will disagree with this, but every once in a while on this trip around the sun we are all given the opportunity to offer a helping hand to a fellow traveller, so why not do something? It's the old adage, "lead, follow or get the hell out of the way!"
Let us know what happen, and just be careful!!!
Virginia
Evidently, you know this person, have talked to them or have seen them and just feel sorry for them??
If you feel comfortable enough, I'd invite them to have a cup of coffee or something else non-discript, and get to know them if they are willing to share. But needless to say, be careful, people who are reduced to that standard of life can be desperate, mentally ill, who knows.
If you do get to sit down with them, I have no doubt you would know what to say, like how dangerous their chosen lifestyle is, etc, but if they persist, and again you feel comfortable with them offer to help them with their appearance. You probably can't change their lifestyle, but perhaps make it easier for them.
I know some of my sisters will disagree with this, but every once in a while on this trip around the sun we are all given the opportunity to offer a helping hand to a fellow traveller, so why not do something? It's the old adage, "lead, follow or get the hell out of the way!"
Let us know what happen, and just be careful!!!
Virginia
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I got an email from her, she found my yahoo profile & FB.
I got the impression from a few chats & emails back and forth, that all she's interested in is casual sex, just for the sake of 'doing it like a girl'.
I got the impression from a few chats & emails back and forth, that all she's interested in is casual sex, just for the sake of 'doing it like a girl'.
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Virginia
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My guess, is young, naive, not real smart and needs help!!!
Hope you have the opportunity to give her some sage advice and protect her from herself!
Do I need to come down there? Guess my Mom would like to see her daughter again, anyway!
Love,
Virginia
Hope you have the opportunity to give her some sage advice and protect her from herself!
Do I need to come down there? Guess my Mom would like to see her daughter again, anyway!
Love,
Virginia
First star to the right, then straight on 'till mornin!
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Absaroka
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Meeting someone on line for sex might not be the best way to start a mentoring relationship......
It may be that this person just has a sexual fetish and nothing more, likes the anonymity of the internet, and is not overly concerned with the various issues that can accompany these things. After all meeting strangers for casual sex in f2f life can be risky also. Because this forum is explicitly non sexual, we tend to forget how many people do this just for sex. Nothing wrong with that, but peoples reasons need to be clear.
My personal opinion which might be all wrong is that when we engage people like this we do it on their terms. She hasn't said anything about wanting help, so those are your terms, not hers.
You might consider sticking to electronic correspondence, if even that, for a long while. Personally I'd probably disengage quickly as it seems like you are looking for a relationship where you can be helpful to someone, take them under your wing so to speak, and they are looking for something else.
It may be that this person just has a sexual fetish and nothing more, likes the anonymity of the internet, and is not overly concerned with the various issues that can accompany these things. After all meeting strangers for casual sex in f2f life can be risky also. Because this forum is explicitly non sexual, we tend to forget how many people do this just for sex. Nothing wrong with that, but peoples reasons need to be clear.
My personal opinion which might be all wrong is that when we engage people like this we do it on their terms. She hasn't said anything about wanting help, so those are your terms, not hers.
You might consider sticking to electronic correspondence, if even that, for a long while. Personally I'd probably disengage quickly as it seems like you are looking for a relationship where you can be helpful to someone, take them under your wing so to speak, and they are looking for something else.
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Absaroka wrote:My personal opinion which might be all wrong is that when we engage people like this we do it on their terms. She hasn't said anything about wanting help, so those are your terms, not hers.
She's asked for makeup & clothes help, but like I said, I think she's more interested in 'SW Virginia Trannies Gone Wild' rather than trying to get in touch with her feminine side & express it in more ways than it being a sexual turn-on for her.
That's what I was thinking.Personally I'd probably disengage quickly as it seems like you are looking for a relationship where you can be helpful to someone, take them under your wing so to speak, and they are looking for something else.
See, that's the part I kind of feel sorry for, she's about my age, but she's not out of the closet at all.Virginia wrote:My guess, is young, naive, not real smart and needs help!!!
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Hi girls,
I agree with DanteCarrie, just because someone is sexual, does not make them a prostitute. There are lots of men and women who go out regularly with the intention of having a one night stand. I see it no differently for a CDer. Remember, for a certain percentage of CDers, their interest in dressing is strictly sexual. Calling someone a prostitute because they enjoy consensual uncommitted sex, is going a bit too far in my book.
I say as long as she is not hurting anyone, it's her business and isn't something that really needs fixing.
Love always,
Elizabeth
I agree with DanteCarrie, just because someone is sexual, does not make them a prostitute. There are lots of men and women who go out regularly with the intention of having a one night stand. I see it no differently for a CDer. Remember, for a certain percentage of CDers, their interest in dressing is strictly sexual. Calling someone a prostitute because they enjoy consensual uncommitted sex, is going a bit too far in my book.
I say as long as she is not hurting anyone, it's her business and isn't something that really needs fixing.
Love always,
Elizabeth
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Absaroka
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I must have missed something but I went and reread the whole thread, and can't find anywhere where she is described as a prostitute.
I agree with Elizabeth, that we need to avoid looking down on the folks who do this for just sexual reasons.
Zari
Once more I am confronted by advancing age, as I am every time I write about something being "only" sexual. I fondly remember the time when there was nothing only or mere about sex.
I agree with Elizabeth, that we need to avoid looking down on the folks who do this for just sexual reasons.
Zari
Once more I am confronted by advancing age, as I am every time I write about something being "only" sexual. I fondly remember the time when there was nothing only or mere about sex.
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You're right Donna, I went and read it again. Inferring prostitution was an uncalled for leap.
I've known quite a few former prostitutes, both male and female. Since they are former prostitutes there was obviously something they didn't like about the life. Some have talked about the inner workings of their psyche as it related to prostitution and it's a fascinating subject.
I've never used a prostitute because for me sex is something that should be freely given. If I have to pay you for it what's the point? But I don't think it ought have the moral connotations it does. People say it's not really a victimless crime, but that has more to do with what goes with the criminal outlook and lifestyle itself I think.
Still, without issueing any judgements, there is a difference between someone who has random sex with strangers for fun or emotional dysfunction and someone who does it for money.
Zari
I've known quite a few former prostitutes, both male and female. Since they are former prostitutes there was obviously something they didn't like about the life. Some have talked about the inner workings of their psyche as it related to prostitution and it's a fascinating subject.
I've never used a prostitute because for me sex is something that should be freely given. If I have to pay you for it what's the point? But I don't think it ought have the moral connotations it does. People say it's not really a victimless crime, but that has more to do with what goes with the criminal outlook and lifestyle itself I think.
Still, without issueing any judgements, there is a difference between someone who has random sex with strangers for fun or emotional dysfunction and someone who does it for money.
Zari
everything under the sun is in tune
but the sun is eclipsed by the moon
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