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Like many others, even though I love wearing feminine clothing, and have certain fantasies that may involve men, for the most part I'm hetero, but since I have certain desires, I'm giving up looking for straight women, as I don't think they would appreciate my other side. I've accepted a while ago that I'm shy, and introverted, so I don't force my self to be in situations where I'm nervous, but there are times I would like to be more comfortable around women, and less intimidated, so are there others here that have tried being outside while dressed, and socialize with women? Are you more comfortable? Thanks
~Samantha

I can't / don't pass, so it's a non-issue for me.

The only woman I'm ever around while dressed is my wife. She is AOK with it; just the same, I remain just a bit nervous because I fear overdoing it and causing an undesirable reaction. It's never happened yet. . . .

Samantha, two responses for you.

Mike P. wrote: I'm giving up looking for straight women, as I don't think they would appreciate my other side

Do not give up looking for a GG as they are out there. I have a recent GF that is ok with my femme side. You just need to keep looking and do not hide your femme side, just share it a little at a time.

Mike P. wrote: outside while dressed, and socialize with women?

I will not say I socialize with other woman, but I have no problems striking up a conversation with other women when out and about dressed enfemme. I would say the first thing is you need to be comfortable with who you are as if you are not you may be giving off some nervous vibes which may turn others (male or female) off from you from the start. Then just strike up a conversation by asking them a question about something you are doing or looking at.

Have fun and enjoy.

kimberlys cd
joe in a skirt

Well for Carol Ann I am more comfortable around women as I can blend in and shop or what ever as if it was an everyday thing.

Now will admit I am very uncomfortable around men as I have had them try more then once to pick me up, not my cup of tea as men only have one thing on their mine

Samantha, I understand what you mean about feeling more comfortable around women when dressed. I feel that I pass fairly well from a distance. If I keep my appearance subdued and stay in proper venues, I just blend right in. I've had many nice conversations with woman while clothes shopping. Once, in a thrift store, I helped a rather well endowed woman find the correct size bra. Of course, there are those times when I'm out dare-dressing. Short skirt, fishnets, high heels and larger breasts. Not exactly what to wear to the auto repair shop but, maybe Walmart. If I'm reading into your post correctly, It appears that you are looking for an accepting female life partner that would understand your gender exploration and bi-curious thoughts. They're out there. Young women especially are more accommodating as the older ones may lean more towards traditional M/F role definitions.

I am, and it has to do with rejection. I do not know many men who are that accepting. I know it is a delusion to think why should it be different for women? I think it is because women wear dresses and the potential is there because women are more open that more women would blow it off at least to some degree. Because the general public is more aware of transgender people and of crossdressing that even more people would tend to think...well...you have the right to wear what you want, at least many more today than even 5 years ago. I think the argument that women can wear whatever they like, therefore men should be able to as well probably carries some weight too in the concept of equality and acknowledgement that while a little strange it is nothing that anyone is not aware of and does not make us perverts automatically at least to more than there used to be I think.

Men, women, children, pets and aliens..... I'm comfortable with all of them if I'm fem or not. How I interact with them dressed or not these days is becoming very consistent -- I'm just Davita.

I am not sure I have ever been intimidated because of a person's sex or gender. I'm just bad that way. As for rejection? Nowadays, it's their loss not mine.

I greeted my wife's sitter today in a dress, felt very comfortable, and everything carried on as usual, I spoke about this in my diary today.

Oh yeah, I am definitely more at ease around women when I'm dressed more feminine. It's not a question of passing or blending in because I don't, not usually.
But this is true in just about every context. Women are more comfortable around me when I'm wearing womens clothes, and consequently I feel less self-concious. I have the feeling that for some reason women see me as a threat, almost like a predator. Maybe I'm crazy and don't understand the issue, but that is the impression I get. Which is sort of ironic because as the saying goes, "I'm more afraid of them than they are of me."
So I know they don't see me as one of the girls, but there is something going on. Perhaps there is some unconcious message that I can share and understand their interests and concerns. Perhaps they are not worried that I will try hitting on them so they relax a little. Whatever the reason, I know that I don't feel pressured to convey some stereotyped image and they don't feel so defensive.

Yes, I am less nervous around women when dressed. I have been living as a women for the last three years ninety percent of the time. My children and family don't know about Carolyn.

I have lady friends that don't know I'm a guy. When I'm with them I find I don't have a problem talking to them about any subject. As a man when I am around women I'm never sure what to say. Will I say something stupid? Will I make them uncomfortable in some way? Will I embarrass myself? I know that stems from the fact that I am shy and introverted.

But as Carolyn I am not. As Carolyn I feel totally accepted and so I'm relaxed around them and there isn't any subject that they won't talk about. How did menopause affect me? Why won't I date that nice man? Do you use sex toys? It's been an interesting three years.

Hi,

Maybe not quite what you wont to hear yet is part of being a woman, = female.=.

iv just got back from our Renaissance. camp 210 of us men and women plus children.

in our parting time of saying our bye's that i dont like yet we have too. this is about being comfortable about your self and others, in giving each other a hug and for us its has a lot of meaning because its a real part of how we interact with each other,
some i wont see till this time next year. so yes its lovely,

I know quite a few men will offer thier hand in a handshake , i have my arms out streched and its about a hug a closeness that we have for each other we spend a week together im bunked up with 3 other women some i know others are new we have a bond we work closely with each other
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For myself and i know others do we have a trust in each other and a closeness that we share with each other and we care for each other. its about........ Being family,........

out side of our camps very few men will hug you in the same way as we do

...noeleena...

I don't know if it addresses your question directly or not, I have always related better to women than men. It doesn't matter how I am presenting myself.

The conversations are deeper, I am more willing to expose my feelings. I just don't feel like I have anything to prove. With men the conversations devolve into a can you top this lying contest.

Kelly.

Just for my two cents worth, I'm generally equally comfortable around men or women, unless I'm dressed. Then I feel uncomfortable around men. It's probably just a hold over from adolescence, but, there it is.

Mike - I find that I am comfortable around men and women irrespective of whether I am dressed or not. If I do have a prejudice in this regard it is being around Very male men - the lack of empathy and the clumsiness with feelings just leaves me cold!

As for going out with straight women - I'd say don't limit yourself. Let them know who you are and what you do and they'll decide what they want / don't want! The rule I had for myself was to juss be honest!

Davita - you were abducted by aliens! Now that you say it - it all makes perfect sense!

Hugs Ginny xxx

I am very comfortable dressed fem with woemen & not just my wife
A little while ago I hiked in femme top, shorts and nude pantyhose & I did not notice any reaction