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Bemoaning the loss of 90's generation support groups
Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 2:58 am
by Wesley
Hello all,
I've not posted here in some time, but tonight I felt compelled to post on another thread. Figure I might as well "Get it all out!"
I live in Oklahoma. Back in the early to mid 90's there was a support group which was affiliated with Tri-Ess. The group was the Sigma Beta chapter. My wife of the time and I went to a few meetings, and the group seemed to fall apart.
I recently wanted to start going again, but it seems most all of the Tri=Ess groups have failed for one reason or another. In doing a bit of internet research for similar groups, I find page after page with out of date and expired links to Tri Ess chapters that have long since gone the way of the dodo. . .
I am a bit mystified that no groups have come forth to fill the gap. I did speak with a former member who told me the group was beset with factions each wanting to pull in a different direction.
So, why no new resurgent support groups? No matter how well adjusted both my wife and I are regarding my crossdressing, it is sometimes nice to meet with someone with similar interests. Even with groups such as this, I really don't have a viable means of meeting with other crossdressers in the area . . .. Sad. . .very sad. .
Thoughts anyone?
Re: Bemoaning the loss of 90's generation support groups
Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 3:51 pm
by Jessica M
Your timing is funny, I have been thinking a lot the last few days about how much I would like to find others in my area. I'm considering taking a craigslist ad to see if I can find others in my area interested in starting a group. These forums are fine but sometimes their is no replacement for a good conversation or in person moral support.
Jessica
Re: Bemoaning the loss of 90's generation support groups
Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 6:40 pm
by Martina Hall
How about it, administrators, is this cool under your rules? Or some other avenue?
Re: Bemoaning the loss of 90's generation support groups
Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 7:57 pm
by Anita
Hi Martina--
Nothing improper about this thread as it stands. Looking for romantic partners or dates on the forum is prohibited, but asking if there are other CDs in one's area is OK, as well as announcing that you have a support group going on in [name of city.] I have seen examples of both of these types of threads on here.
Of course, I would defer to SilverLady on these manners, but that's my immediate take. In looking at the guidelines, I did not see anything that would lead me to think that searching for CD-related support activities isn't allowed.
As for lack of new groups coming along--there may be some out there, and they keep a low profile. It's understandable; they want new members, of course, but they also don't want any web attention that would 'out' them. If you have an LGBT center within, say, one hundred miles of you, they may have listings for groups in your area. A support group would feel fairly safe listing with the center.
I'm making an assumption that in Oklahoma there may be an interest in listing groups some distance from the center, as there are not as many groups as there would be in New York or San Francisco.
Our center would only list local groups, within 20 miles, but there are a lot of groups here.
Re: Bemoaning the loss of 90's generation support groups
Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 9:27 pm
by SilverLady(SO)
Hi -
I have no problems with members searching for other members in their area - to socialize, form or join a group, etc. - and we have encouraged that over the years because we know an online forum does not fill the need for face-to-face contact that members may need.
On the other hand, as Anita mentioned, looking for romantic partners or dates is strictly prohibited.
Jessica - I would not recommend Craig's List at all . . . you'll find a lot of losers looking for sex, hook-ups, quickies, etc. under a variety of terms and phrases.
Anita's suggestions for finding local groups are spot-on. There is almost always a local LGBT center in or near a larger city or metropolitan area and they would (or should) know of CD/TG groups nearby, and you can also do a Google search for them.
I think DonnaT has a few resources she uses to help members find local groups and events, too.
- SL
Re: Bemoaning the loss of 90's generation support groups
Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2014 7:58 am
by Wesley
Hello all,
Thanks for the replies. . When I posted I was not looking for individuals per se. . It seemed that the 90's Tri Ess groups sprang up at once and almost disappeared just as quickly. Here we are some 20 years later and no other group has formed to step in, or to reinvigorate a nationwide group such as Tri ess.
Myself personally, I think it would be great to have a couple of new groups in Oklahoma. Preferably one in Tulsa and one in OKC. But I would settle for even a close out of state group. . .
I would almost be inclined to offer to set up a group, but it has come to my attention that the participants of the former Sigma Beta group in OKC got dragged down (if you will!) by competing factions with different sexuality. From what I understand, There were a few "Crossdressers" primarily or predominantly hetero, and a few TG people on all sides of the isle, each wanting to go in differing directions.
So, How the heck could you get a group going for predominate hetero crossdressers. You would not want exclude anyone, but to keep a cohesive direction and purpose, you might have to. . .
Given the gambit of our ranks, it is a mind boggling problem.
Thoughts?
Re: Bemoaning the loss of 90's generation support groups
Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2014 4:21 pm
by DonnaT
The folks at Oklahomans for Equality may know of some social groups.
Contact Information
General Email:
center@okeq.org
Public Contact: Toby Jenkins, Executive Director
Executive Director: Toby Jenkins, Executive Director
Board Leader: Michael Smith, Board President
Important Phone Numbers
Main: 918-743-4297
Fax: 918-295-6885
Hotline: 918-743-4297
Helpline: 918-743-4297
Facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/OklahomansforEquality" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Note also
https://www.facebook.com/events/329982413819332/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
There use to be, but you'd have to call to find out if they still meet:
Cross Dressers International (C.D.I)
c/o Ms Gwen Pete
P.O. Box 50192
Tulsa, OK 74104
Phone: (918) 582-6643 / 835-5334
Social and support group. Meetings every other Saturday
Re: Bemoaning the loss of 90's generation support groups
Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2014 5:47 pm
by Wesley
Thanks for the info Donna. . . I see if I can get in touch with any of the people listed. .
Re: Bemoaning the loss of 90's generation support groups
Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2014 5:16 pm
by Jessica M
I was not suggesting anything untoward and apologize if it came across that way. I just started going out in public about three months ago with the support of my wife and the experience has made me think a lot about how much easier it would have been for both of us with a support group in the area.
I agree about craigslist, it seemed like a plausible idea at first but the more I research it the more I am glad I hesitated before charging ahead. I will continue to pursue other resources in my area and hopefully have better luck in the future.
Jessica
Re: Bemoaning the loss of 90's generation support groups
Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 10:33 am
by MichelleZ
Denver used to have a drag bar where one could meet and socialize with other CDs. It's been very lonely since it closed, no other bar has had the the same experience, guess everyone is staying dressed at home alone.