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This is something that I have thought about quite deeply . What is that essence that one possesses that upon first glance causes another to identify them as female. Is it facial shape, body shape, deportment, hair-style? I don't know, but if its in a bottle I want to drink it and drink deeply of it.

There is this part of me that wants it so badly in a way that even when I'm (cross-)dressed as a boy, I would get identified as a girl, yet not look like a fool. I have come darn close at times, especially with my latest hair style -- poker straight.

Any thoughts

Hugs

Toni-Lynn

I don't think it's the sauce, more like the source. Like the sensibility where everything come from and is felt by the onlooker.

Hi,

Depends on wether you wont to be seen like a woman or accepted as being one meaning Natal born ,

I send out many different message,s as to what i am though not so much now as before ,

I dont wont to read into this so i,ll take it as it is , for what it is by those who say what they do ,

I had a male last Saturday walk past me at our Waimate Strawberry Fare and say so any one around could hear , as he was looking at me your a gorgeous woman , and as he walked on an other 30 feet , i looked around me to see who he said it to , and ooops there was no one around me so i slowly turned to see who he was talking to and he was still looking at me.
i tryed to not make it that i looked at him.

Then again on one of our forums an other male said im a lovely woman . as i blushed yes i do because i dont ever expect men to even look at me in the way of i am a female who is a woman ..

Whats changed whats going on i never thought or would accept im a lovely looking female , im just not a lovely beautifull looking woman ....yet ....and really what the hell would men see in me any way . nothing i can see,

My smile my demeanor my attitude my personality and just who i am as a female , yes i,v grown into a woman and so have most of those i know all natal born and each of us in our own way,s , im not pretty far from it , and if there was a line up of women i would never ever be next to them no way , I would be so embarrased ,

I sure dont understand men and this really compounds my own thoughts on that i really have no idear .Ill tell you this rattles me if i was beautifull then thats another matter . i, just so not ...

Not sure if im much help other than say there are aspects about who i am and what i show as a person that maybe others see that .

okay my self, Body size and shape female , deportment and demeanor female .headwear done for a female weight well with in an avg fit on the go and nimble female .

Now facial features, im not commenting on that any more , others may see that totaly different from how i see my self .

so what makes who i am appealing or gorgeous , i dare not answer that .others can .

...noeleena...

Noeleena:
We grow. Such is life. A lot of it has to do with what's on the inside, and from what I have read of your posts, you are quite beautiful, and feminine inside.

So here's a bit of a thought. This past Tuesday was a spa day for me! Well, actually, spa 3 hours. For 3 hours I was pampered at Chatters (sorta like Ulta) and my hair is poker straight and very girly. In fact if you squinky up yours eyes just right -- even without makeup -- I just scream -- girly-licious!

Proof .. in line at the store -- 'Let the lady through sweetheart' (a mum to her little girl), and 'May I help you ma'am' (Getting a coffee at Tim Hortons).

I wasn't in a skirt, wasn't wearing makeup, and it just was that way. Now granted, I had just shaved no more than 30 minutes before, so my face was smooth, so that helped.

So, physical look at deportment do play into it.

What I love about this is the when it happens I am seen as the person I truly am. I am not seen as the not too terribly masculine person with a penis, but rather, I am seen just as me. (The assumption that something other is between my legs is an added bonus)

I harken back to an aunt of mine. She was a big strong woman. Big frame and big bones as it where. She had a ruddy complexion, and in her later years a wisp of hair above her lip. Yet this woman was a wife to her husband as well as a mother to 2 boys and 2 girls. No one every questioned her as being a woman.

There is so much in the mix -- and maybe its different for everyone. Maybe the lesson is to stop worrying and just be.

Hugs

Toni-Lynn

Dear Toni-Lynn,

There is no special sauce other than confidence in who you are. Sometimes the average CD will dress too nice and actually draw more attention.

Nice experience at the spa!

Eileen