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I am sorry, but I must leave here. My soon to be exwife, who is a troll, has been allowed to ruin this place for me. She is not a Significant other. She is an adulterer who lives with another man that is her Significant Other. Giving her this special status here is a troll loophole. I have not seen one other exwife here with (SO) status. In fact I have not seen one other exwife here. It is perposterous.

She is not a significant other. She did not come here for support. She came here to ruin it because she knew I got strength from here.

This hipocracy over my putting up pictures of my kids is just insane. My wife has damaged my family in ways that I have not yet been to calculate. Showing that my kids can still be happy, and that we are doing our best under the most trying of circumstances is very relevant to this discussion. However, it seems that when a SO puts up pictures of her kids, there is no problem. Or if I touch up a picture and post it.


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In fact Beauty posts on what nice job I did. So this nonsense about it not being appropriate to have pictures of our children is just not so. The picture of Bubbles(SO) child is still up.

You know we just talked about spotting trolls. My exwife has not come here for support. Only to tear this down for me. It has worked, and as you will all see with my departure, there will be no more posts from her. Mission accomplished.

Dartlene

My wife came here to ruin this for me. She has. She has lied in court, she has stolen from me, she has lied here. If you can not spot a troll when you see one, then it is you who put up the wall, not I. I have always pushed the bounderies. I did want to show that me and my kids were happy, but not to her, she knows already. They won't even talk to her on the phone. She has lied to them. They witnessed her assault me. They can have no entertainment, and have the indignity of waiting in the Welfare office, because my wife has not paid any money in 2 1/2 months. But she can upgrade apartments. her new apartment, while being one bedroom less than ours, costs twice as much as the one we live in. She has lied and told her family that she left and quit her job because she was afraid I would kill her when in fact she was having an affair, and moved in with her boyfriend, and quit her job so she would not have to commute, even though quiting caused my kids to lose their health insurance in direct violation of a court order.

This is a serious flaw in the way this forum runs. The only problem with showing pictures of my kids being happy with me crossdressed is that it offends those who are still bigoted and wish to promote the agenda that we must keep this dirtly little little secret.

Everyone knew what she was here for, and as soon as Sharon(SO) responded to my wife the first time in a tone that sounded "mother to mother" to me, without knowing what my wife has done to our children, I knew it was going to end.

So I guess everyone loses. I mean except my wife, she will have done what she wanted. But be assured of this. As long as I am not here, neither will my soon to be exwife.

To everyone who has supported me and held me up when I could not hold myself up? I think you are all beautiful people and I love you dearly, and do indeed owe my life to you. Please keep loving, and healing each other. I am strong, I can stand on my own two feet, but because of my wife being able to turn this place into a he said, she said, I have now just become a distraction from the important mission of this beautiful place. I would rather leave than to see it subject to this negativity.

Because I am so moved by the people here, and because I am so emotional, I can not just come here and read the posts. I am too passionate and feel this need to interject myself. So stoppipng by is not really something I feel will be helpful.

I love you all

Elizabeth

Elizabeth...maybe you just need to sort things out in your home life.. spend some time doing that and maybe return to us when things atre better.

Elizabeth, believe me, we know what a tough situation you are in. but don't say goodbye. just leave for a while and later after a period of time, you may feel different and you can come back without having to explain anything and jump right back in. Hang in there.

Hi Elizabeth,

Please don't leave... we all love you here, and I would miss you terribly. Maybe you can take off the forum for a few days. Please don't go.

Elizabeth,

I only read this thread--I don't know all the details---I do remember when you first posted here it was to get a break from that very kind of thing---this was just before I left here for a bit.

I do recall your wonderful swing towards supporting others here---I say swing because at first you were scrambling for your center--at least that's how I remember it. You quickly gathered yourself together here and You have always wrote from your heart --never pretending to be this or that. I value the honesty about your experiences. You have made an amazing transition. I mean on the inside...that's where I think it really counts.

I have just read a wonderful book on the life of Picasso----he transformed himself quite naturally and followed this along a path of expression---his works from each period are all strikingly different from eachother as he moved on to new explorations of art. His genius was NOT being burdened by a need for continuity.

He was true to himself in this regard---and I have seen you share that willingness to grow into the uncharted realms of yourself.

I can relate really well to some aspects of what I gather you are dealing with.

Know this: I read so much real and honest truth in your posts earlier this summer that I know you have strength and joy and understanding in your heart.

The tough part is that love will help you inside better than bitterness---there isn't any trick to this from what I see except honestly trying to shake off any idea of who's right and what motivates action and words.

Polarity is a strong and natural pull as we all know. Tough to feel poked at with a stick---all the great and mellow reactions to difficult situations seem instantly gone with one angry response.

If you stumble off the razor's edge and feel sucked into natural and negative reactions to a situation---just please DON"T BE TOO HARD ON YOURSELF!!! Your confidence in your being is your greatest ally---I know you already realize this.

I believe it is so human to be SO HUMAN!

I still think Love is a magic thing that is in your heart right now--wanting so badly to help you.

I do think it was good for me to leave here for a bit---I'm a focuser---that is I really really focus on whatever I'm up to---I wanted to see about focusing time a way from internet ---see what I could develop and explore---things about peace and understanding what it is to be alive and on a PATH LESS TRAVELLED.

I believe it did me good---though the support here is VERY real and true--and I feel an important recharge from this place-we are all individuals--though share a suprising amount of things in common.

This place is an important resource for all of us---I am humbled by all the great work that steadily preserves it...

you are a part of it...however long between your posts.

In the spirit of all of the great support you have offered to others here--and your articulate and honest expressions at stating a philosopy of understanding I want to tell you that you are an awesome and passionate person who has made a great difference on my life by earnestly just being yourself.


I send you warm rays of hope and magic and secret wishes for this world to ambush you with a wonderful string of events and fortune to make you excited for each step you take in the next days of your life.


BE WELL ELIZABETH!!! you have the warmth of the entire sun swirling inside your heart.

I am grateful for the glimpses I've gotten from its shine.

--- Tea-cake

Elizabeth wrote:... So this nonsense about it not being appropriate to have pictures of our children is just not so. The picture of Bubbles(SO) child is still up.

For everyone. If Bubbles(SO) or Calina asked them to be removed they will be removed from view.

Take care of yourself Elizabeth we'll be here if you need us in the capacity we can help.

Love,
Beauty

I can only repeat what the others have said and don't go. I may have not answered all your threads, sometimes I can't always come up with the sentimental type of words to answer them. It doesn't mean I don't read them, I just don't always have the words to answer them. There are a lot of people here who love you and wish you didn't go.

If you do go, just be happy and take care of your kids, I hope everything works out for you.

Love Amelie

Hi Elizabeth,

Please stay

*Hugs & Love*

Elizabeth,

It is a sad day to see you make this decision, but you will have to respond the way you see things, and I respect that.
Should you find that further along you are able to get past this, I want you to know that you will be welcomed back.

Elizabeth, I am deeply saddened by your descision to leave. I respect it but sad, you take care of yourself and your kids. Do what you need to do to protect youself and your kids. Love always........Kristen

Ellizabeth, honey you have come such a long way and I for one am so proud of you!!!! You are mature enough to make a decision and stand by it, like the mighty oak!!!!!!! You know that the candle will be burning in the window for you and I have to say you have a special place in my heart as well! Come back to us when you feel comfortable and know that we all treasure you and love you!
Your friend and sister!,
Virginia

I am sorry that it has come to the point of you leaving here--you have really been such a great source of inspiration to Calina, I hope that someday you choose to come back here. **hugs** much love, Bubbles.

What Bubbles(SO) is so true, you have been a real inspiration to me and I have become stronger due to the strength you have shown. Your threads of acceptance, at the mall and the neighbor for example, has given me hope that someday we will all be accepted. It is pioneers like you that lets people see that CD'ers are not freaks and weirdos. I am truly sadden to see you go. But I do also understand. Although the situation was a little different, I had similar feelings earilier when I had said good-bye. I am sorry about what you have to go through and you have my love from one sister to another. As you said to me when I left:

If however you change your mind, we will be here for you to give you support, love, and understanding.

Take care and may you find hapiness in what ever you do,
Calina

Elizabeth ,

Please come back , this situation will blow over and you can move on.
You can still post general topics , any private material you can use the PM section with the person of choice.

I will have to agree with the above posts " you are an inspiration " , especially pushing the boundary of acceptance.

I should also like to take this opportunity to thank you for your support , you accept me as I present myself without question.


Thank you Elizabeth , please reconsider and stay.

Hi all,

Elizabeth,

Ditto to what all my sisters said here. Like Virginia, I'll be keeping a candle burning at the window. Please be well.

Love,
CJ