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acceptance message

Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2004 3:48 pm
by Merinda
Hi all ,

This morning I have woken from a somewhat distorted dream , however part of this dream seemed to make some sort of sense and I want to get your views on it.

In part of my dream , my wife was lectured about accepting Merinda and this is what she was asked by an unknown person --

If Merinda was your husbands twin sister would you accept her ??

If your husband was close to his twin sister would you accept it ??

If your husband spent a lot of time with his twin sister would you mind ??

Merinda has the same interests and thoughts as your husband in the same way that a twin would have.
Although your husband and Merinda are the same , in a pshycological sense you must accept Merinda in the same light as a twin sister.
( end dream)

I woke this morning thinking that this is fantastic , I couldn't wait to post it.

Does anyone think that this is good advise or a reaction to the hayfever drug I took before going to sleep.

Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2004 3:53 pm
by Amelie-Laveau
Only one thing,,, Your wife didn't answer the questions in your dream.

How do you think your wife would answer?

Love Amelie

Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2004 4:03 pm
by DonnaT
Merinda has the same interests and thoughts as your husband in the same way that a twin would have. Although your husband and Merinda are the same , in a pshycological sense you must accept Merinda in the same light as a twin sister.
Must have been the drugs, plus this forum being burned into the brain. :)

Since you are both people (well that's not exactly correct either), it's not the same as being twins.

Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2004 9:54 pm
by Elizabeth
Merinda,

My money is on the drugs.

It has never crossed my mind that one could "force" acceptance.
Merinda wrote:

Although your husband and Merinda are the same , in a pshycological sense you must accept Merinda in the same light as a twin sister.
I do not beleive anyone is going to force anyone to accept anything. So saying she "must" is going nowhere.

Second, twins are seperate people. They have separate personalities, goals, desires. While they may have somewhat more in common that most brothers or sisters, they usually end up living separate lives.

You and Merinda are not separate people, you are the same person. I had trouble with this when I first got here.

http://crossdressers-forum.com/forums/v ... ght=#19434

Read the resonse that Beauty wrote a few down.

I finally realized that I am Elizabeth, Elizabeth is me. My male personna was the part that was not real. Most of the qualities about myself that I like are who I am now. And being a fraud, a fake person to appease society are the characteristics about myself I hated.

I am still Rudy, and I am still Elizabeth. But I am not two separate people. I just got rid of the fake personality that portrays himself to be something he is not. That way I don't have to feel bad. I am sure if you talked to those closest to me, who have seen this transition, they would tell you I am still exactly the same person, just happier.

I still have the same values, and beliefs. I still think the same things are funny. I do cry more,but only because my fake male personna made me supress my desire to cry when I am sad, and I don't hold that back any more.

Merinda, you don't have a twin. You are one person. If your wife is to accept you, she will have to accpept you as you are. One person, a person who has a need to dress in female clothing. You can not force her to do this. I firmly beleive this now. She must find her own way.

Love always,
Elizabeth

Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2004 12:24 am
by Loretta Ann
!!!yes!!! My money is on the drug.

Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2004 2:54 am
by Merinda
WOOOOOH! ,

I think you've all taken this the wrong way,

This was a" DREAM" not a description of how I feel , I just found the dream interesting and wondered what people thought of it.

In any case the speech in the dream was directed at my wife not me

I can honestly say that it was probably reading too many posts on this forum before bed combined with the hayfever drug jumbled my brain.

Anyway I can put your fears to rest , I am and always will be one person.

Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2004 9:21 am
by Beauty
Hi Merinda,

Ok, so help me understand. I didn't think it was two people. I thought you were asking should you ask your wife those questions.

Am I off? It wouldn't be the first time! :)

Beauty

Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2004 4:01 pm
by Elizabeth
Merinda,
Merida wrote:

Does anyone think that this is good advise or a reaction to the hayfever drug I took before going to sleep.
I must have misunderstood, because I thought you were asking if this was good advice in the sense that you should put it to your wife in this way. Since I don't think it is good advice, I selected that it must be the drugs.

I continued to explain why because you asked if anyone thought this was good advice. I don't think it is good advice and explained why. The fact that you asked if this was good advice made me think that perhaps you considered it might indeed be good advice. If I presumed too much, I apologize.

I am glad to know that you consider yourself to be one person. As I stated, it was hard for me to realize I was one person, after living a duel life for so long.

Love always,
Elizabeth

Re: acceptance message

Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2004 4:53 pm
by Merinda
Merinda Widget wrote:Hi all ,


Does anyone think that this is good advise or a reaction to the hayfever drug I took before going to sleep.
OK I'll rephrase ,

Since the questions flowed in a form of continuity and made sense in the way they were asked rather than jumbled nonsense which most dreams are, do you think that I was recieving a message of advise in my sleep (extra sensory perception)??
Or has the hayfever relief drug had the effect of keeping my mind active enough to get a distorted view of the topics discussed on this forum while I sleep.

Elizabeth,
I'm sorry I caused you to waste your time typing such a long reply.
I think the misunderstanding is that the word "good" was used , I should have said " real " advise.

I hope this clears this up.

Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2004 7:43 pm
by Anita
Hi Merinda--
I don't have a problem with the way the speaker in the dream used "must." The speaker was using it in the sense of, "If you want A, you need to approach it by B." Your wife can still decide if she wants A, or if she doesn't.

I think the twins analogy is a good one, myself, simply because it fits my experience better. No, Anita and I are not separate people, but we're different enough that others can understand ME better by thinking of it like your dream suggested.

I try to create a "middle personality" that takes on characteristics of the two selves, and I get better at that as the years go on. But there are some extremes on either end that belong with either the guy, or the gal, and those don't mix--probably never will. Since both sides are honest with people, it doesn't involve any deceptions, so I don't worry about it.

It really is a matter of definition. It works better for me to think of it as two people who need to get along, because they're sharing a body.
A

Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2004 1:00 am
by Elizabeth
Merinda,

I did not find it a waste of time at all. I find this to be a very interesting subject, that I had never considered, and I appreciate that opportunity to share my opinion on the matter.

Who asks the question is irrelevant to me, because all you asked was did I think this was good advice.

I did misunderstand the choice however, because I did not see it as an either/or entirely. Yes I think that cold medicine can make you have strange dreams, but you could have had the same dream and not taken any cold medicine, and question would still have been valid.

As you know, I too have asked about dreams recently. Because no one really knows what dreams do or do not mean, I was just throwing my two cents worth in, just as something to consider.

"Sometimes as cigar is just a cigar"-Freud

Love always,
Elizabeth

Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2004 4:58 am
by Merinda
The name " Merinda " was derived from a dream , that was what I was called in my dream so I decided to adopt the name .

Anita,

I think your term"drawing an analogy" pretty much describes the dreams content, good or bad analogy I dont know.

I have not dicussed the dream with my wife.