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I've began to notice that I find crossdressed men attractive (when they are actually "all the way" femme) in the same way that I find women attractive. I don't know what makes a person an "admirer", but I think that I fit the bill to some extent.

Comments? Questions? Concerns? Complaints?

... I hope that no one here thinks I'm some kind of weirdo now...

I am the same way as you. I think it is the image that I am attracted to. I actually prefer looking at a small butt. in womans clothing. I think it is more of the image of a perfect woman. That is perfect in my mind.

Love Darlene.

Hi girls,

Impossble for me to deny. There are many girls here who are quite passable, and while presenting as females, are quite attractive. I will throw in my standard I am not gay, disclaimer, only as a matter of reference, that because I know that the girls here are men, I am not emotionally attracted to them.

However, as a matter of possessing feminine beauty as it is idealized in my brain, yes, there are many crossdressers that I find quite attractive. And if I had seen them out and about, and did not "make" them to be men, I would just think that I saw an attractive woman.

I am not sure how far this can go though. It always make me think of "The Crying Game" a movie where a man falls in love with this beautiful woman, only to later find out that she is a preoperative transexual. Other than having a penis, she is a woman in every other regard, and he does love her. But for me, women are so idealized in my brain, including sexually, that I just don't think I could have a relationship with a person with a male body, even if I were in love with them. It would just be too much of a turn off. But having never been in that situation, I can not say for sure. Love can be a powerful thing.

I mean, there are SO's who stay with thier partner after SRS, even though they are now the same sex. So who knows?

Love always,
Elizabeth

Hi Celes--
I don't think it's unusual at all for otherwise straight guys to be attracted to T-girls, even when they know they're T-girls. It seems to me like we're hard-wired to react to female gender cues, and it's not a conscious decision on our part.

It's east to see why men can get angry at us. They don't understand why we're doing what we do, they're not gay, and yet they react to seeing us. It's a very confusing thing for them. It can even be confusing for us, and we're a lot better prepared to deal with the whole issue.

I haven't had any trouble with this personally, but I'm always aware of it when I'm out.

Hi all,

I agree with Anita. Gender cues are at the root of this attraction. Just be aware that the cues and what they point to are discordant, so to speak, in the case of men presenting as females.

Love,
CJ

Let's face it--some tgirls are incredibly attractive!

Some of my friends are gorgeous. I sometimes catch myself wondering how different my life would be if I were single. Would I consider a relationship with another tgirl? I may never know the answer, of course. And that's just fine.

And then there's the reality, underneath the appearance. They're guys. The plumbing doesn't lie.

One pre-op TS I know insisted that any men who were attracted to her were not gay or bi. They were straight. Yeah, right.

Around here, "admirer" is a bit of a put-down. Like "she-male." The stereotypical admirer is some slob who's cheating on his wife. At the club, most of the tgirls get all dressed up in sexy dresses, heels, nylons, and manicures--the works. The admirers are standing around in bowling shirts. They don't even bother to take off their wedding rings. Everyone knows.

I look but don't touch. I don't want to be single again. But if I were single, who knows?

So I don't judge.

Very interesting topic ladies! Being a straight hetero,yet a CD'ers you make me consider my thoughts at our local support group dinner Saturday night. I pondered this thread for a while and I know I will drive my sister, Darlene nuts with this, but I are who I are, honey!. I did take notice of the other ladies there and I asked my self why? I have come to the conclusion it was totally Virginia, Virginia "checking-out" the competition from a feminine point of view. For me there was no sexual attraction what so ever, but how they stood, carried themselves, what they wore, did the shoe match the dress, mannerisms, smiles, how they ate, chewed food, wiped their mouth, sat on chairs or couches how they stood. Some one once said on this forum that GG's have this inate ability to take a mental photograph of another woman, instantanious, file it away and later they can pull it up and disect it in100 different ways then just either discard it of save bits and pieces. Like "Oh those shoes were to die for." or "I loved that hair cut or color" or " I have got to get me one of those purses." or gheesh! what a pig!, slut, bitch!" whatever and cha-ching the photo goes away. Great skill that is!!!!!!
Sorry think I got lost in the conservation somewhere anyway, Virginia is not physically attracted to a TGirl, only in a competitive nature.
Virginia

Actually, part of what precipitated my whole 'crisis' with Violet and led me to bring her into the open was my attraction intense to Angels and T-girls. Even after my 'transmuatation' I kept telling and telling myself that I could find CD's attractive and still be straigt, that it's 'just an appearance thing'. That was, for me, all just denial. I was seduced by a very pretty TV one night. I had a bit of angst about it, but by then I had become used to the fact that I'm not sexually 'normative'. Yes, I'm Bi and I'm proud!

Not to reflect on anyone else's experience. If you don't want bois, you don't want bois, and that's that. I'm glad though that I can come out and say, yes, some guys (even some nonCDs though for me not that many) are pretty hot!

Australian singer " Courtney-Act " is a very attractive girl , even many men who are as straight as an arrow and normally bigoted have said that they would love to have a relationship with her .

I found her very attractive myself until the other day when I saw a photo of her in normal male mode " YEERUUKK!! " no thanks!

I am attracted to the female IMAGE that a CDer presents but thats all .

GAH! That's it!

I never though of it as an attraction to the femme image as opposed to the man putting on the femme image. Things are so much clearer for me now!

Rikki: I apologize if my terminology offended you, I've heard the term "admirer" used by another CD, and I did not know... well, I did at the back of my mind... but you brought it forward, and the image was not pleasing. I must say that I would NEVER cheat on my wife (when I get one), or my girlfriend in that case (if I had one!). I do hope that you would be willing to forgive me!

To everyone else: Thanks for your posts! They have made me think quite a bit.