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Mental Health: What's normal, what's not.

Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2006 5:15 pm
by Danielle La Belle
Hi Girls:

As would be expected, not everyone is ready to come face-to-face with their problems. So let's not go down that road for now. We all have problems. After all, problems are nothing more than events that we believe are negative or not in our best interest. Simple. :)

The "problems" can be half-way around the world or right in our own backyard or bedroom. I have told my students in class to leave their seats and go over to the wall. I have them stand with their nose as close to the wall as possible. I then ask them what they see. The wall has a variety of pictures and information on it. Most respond that things are to blurred to really make any sense of what is "right in front of them."

I ask them to step back 1 foot only. They can tell me about what is immediately in front of them but as expected, they cannot tell me much about their neighbors view. I have them all step back about 10 feet and "the world view becomes clear," while some things being so small, are not as recognizeable. They can see how somethings become to small to worry about. Point of view! :lol:
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The following is from MayoClinic.com:

Mental health: What's normal, what's not

By MayoClinic.com

What's the difference between mental health and mental illness? Sometimes the answer is relatively clear. Sometimes it isn't.
People who hear voices in their heads may have schizophrenia, for instance. And those with grandiose ideas — who believe they can run the United Nations, even though they have no applicable experience — may have a form of bipolar disorder.

But more often the answer is less clear-cut. If you can't give a speech in public, does it mean you have a disease or simply a run-of-the-mill case of nerves? If you feel sad and discouraged, are you just experiencing a passing case of the blues, or is it full-fledged depression, for which you may need medication?

Just what is normal, anyway?

The role of culture and science in defining normalcy
Determining what's normal and what's not is tricky. Scientists, researchers and mental health experts have wrestled with the issue for hundreds of years, and even today the line between normal and abnormal is often blurred.

"There's a huge range of what's normal," says Donald E. Williams, Ph.D., a psychologist at Mayo Clinic, Rochester, Minn. "But there are also many types of mental disorders — thoughts, feelings or behaviors that are abnormal."

What's normal is often determined by who's defining it. Normalcy is ambiguous and often rooted in value judgments particular to a certain culture or society. And even within cultures, concepts of normalcy may change over time, particularly if influenced by evolving societal values or expectations. New medical research and knowledge can also lead to changes in definitions of normalcy.

One thing that makes it so difficult to distinguish normal versus abnormal mental health is that you can't simply be tested for it. There's no MRI or blood test for obsessive-compulsive disorder, no ultrasound for depression, no X-ray for bipolar disorder. That's not to say mental disorders aren't biologically based, because they are linked to chemical changes within the brain, and scientists are beginning to map those changes visually. But there's no physiological diagnostic test for mental illness.

So how do you define mental illness?

Instead of using tests, mental health professionals define mental disorders through their signs, symptoms and the functional impairments they may cause.

Functional impairment is the inability to perform certain routine or basic daily tasks, such as bathing or going to work. Signs are what objective observers can document, such as agitation or rapid breathing. Symptoms are subjective, or what you feel, such as sadness or hopelessness.
In mental health, signs and symptoms commonly show up as:

• Behaviors, such as repeated hand washing
• Feelings, such as sadness
• Thoughts, such as delusions that the television is controlling your mind
• Physiological responses, such as sweating

Signs, symptoms and functional impairments are spelled out in detail in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM), a 2-inch thick volume that classifies and describes more than 300 types of mental disorders. The book, published by the American Psychiatric Association, is used by mental health professionals to diagnose everything from anorexia to voyeurism. The first edition of the diagnostic manual was published in 1952, and revisions have been made periodically since.

Why is it important to distinguish between normal and abnormal, to attach labels that could ultimately be stigmatizing? Why does a specific diagnosis matter? One reason is that the health insurance industry uses the diagnoses spelled out in the DSM to determine coverage and benefits and to reimburse mental health providers. But more important is that in order to get appropriate treatment, you must know what condition to treat — and whether it should be treated.

How signs, symptoms and function are interpreted.

How do mental health professionals determine whether the signs, symptoms and dysfunctions you're experiencing are normal or abnormal? Experts often use a combination of the following approaches:

• Your own perceptions. How you perceive your own thoughts, behaviors and functioning can help determine what's normal for you. You may realize that you aren't coping well or that you aren't able to or don't care to do routine activities or the things you used to enjoy. If you have depression, the dishes may go unwashed for days, you may stop bathing, put off socializing, lose interest in hobbies or yell at your family more often. You may feel sad, hopeless or discouraged. You might recognize these behaviors and feelings as a deviation from the norm. You may notice that something's amiss.

• Others' perceptions. Your own perceptions are subjective and may not give you an accurate assessment of your behavior, thoughts or functioning. Objective observers, on the other hand, might be able to do so. To you, your life may seem perfectly normal or typical. Yet to those around you, it may seem odd or abnormal. This is often the case with schizophrenia. If you have schizophrenia, you may have auditory hallucinations — you'll hear voices and carry on conversations with them, believing it's a normal interaction with another person. To witnesses who observe this behavior, it may seem abnormal."It's common that people have something wrong and not know it," Dr. Williams says. "That's true of both mental and physical disorders. People die of a heart attack who never even knew they had heart disease."

• Cultural and ethnic norms. Many times what's normal behavior or thinking is defined by your culture. But that means what's normal within the bounds of one culture may be labeled abnormal within another. Conversing with voices only you can hear may be an indicator of schizophrenia in Western cultures. But these kinds of hallucinations may be a normal part of religious experience in other cultures. And something may be normal or acceptable within your own family that's considered abnormal and in need of changing outside of your home. For instance, the behavior of a child with attention-deficit/hyperactivity disorder may be unacceptable in a structured school environment, but be perceived as normal and acceptable in a less structured home environment, notes Jennifer Fisher, Ph.D., a psychologist at Mayo Clinic, Rochester, Minn.
• Statistical values. Normal is often defined by what's statistically average. Most people fall in the middle ground, the average, while others fall to one extreme or the other.

Length, severity of symptoms also considered
In assessing someone's mental health, all four of these approaches are typically taken into consideration. Mental health experts may ask you how you feel, whether others have noticed a difference in your behavior or mood, and what your cultural background is. They also may ask you to fill out psychological questionnaires.

Other factors are also considered. Among them:

• How long your symptoms have been going on
• How severe the symptoms are
• How upsetting the symptoms are to you
• How the symptoms disrupt your life

It's normal to feel sad after a valued relationship ends. But if you feel intensely sad and upset for several weeks and you lose interest in daily activities, such as going to work, doing household chores, or visiting with friends, you may have depression. Similarly, if you get anxious before giving a presentation to a big client but forge ahead and manage the signs and symptoms, such as sweating or rapid breathing, you may just have a case of normal stage fright, and not social phobia (social anxiety disorder).
And if you cut someone off in traffic or yell at a store clerk, you may just be having a bad day or be a generally ornery person. But if you're abusive, violent, manipulative, exploitive or irresponsible, or if you disregard the law — traits that are persistently maladaptive and inflexible, and cause functional impairment or distress — you may have antisocial personality disorder, sometimes known as sociopathy.
Mental health as an evolving continuum

Despite these criteria, a precise definition of normal mental health remains elusive. The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual acknowledges the difficulty and resorts to defining mental disorders as behavioral or psychological syndromes or patterns that cause distress, disability in functioning, or a significantly increased risk of death, pain or disability. And that syndrome or pattern can't just be an expected and culturally accepted response to a particular event, such as grieving the death of a loved one.

The Surgeon General's 1999 report on mental health states that mental disorders are "health conditions that are characterized by alterations in thinking, mood, or behavior (or some combination thereof) associated with distress and/or impaired functioning."

By most accounts, mental health and mental illness don't have well-defined boundaries.

"I think of it more as a continuum than an absolute," Dr. Fisher says.

Not only is it a continuum, but it's an evolving continuum. In some ways, this is no different from the diagnosis or classification of physical disorders. For years, a blood pressure of 120/80 millimeters of mercury was considered normal, for instance. That changed overnight in May 2003. Now with that blood pressure measurement, you'd be diagnosed with the abnormal condition of pre-hypertension, at risk of life-threatening cardiovascular complications.

Just as with blood pressure, new medical information can lead to changes in the classification of mental disorders — new ones will be added while existing ones will be removed, or the associated signs and symptoms will be modified as new opinions develop over time. Today, some mental health experts, for instance, are proposing that the premenstrual signs and symptoms many women experience every month be classified as a mental disorder — premenstrual dysphoric disorder.

Revisions may also reflect evolving social and cultural attitudes. Homosexuality, for instance, used to be classified as a mental disorder but was removed from the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual in 1973.

To treat or not to treat: Therapy not always necessary

Even if you do have a diagnosable mental disorder, it may not pose a problem in your daily life to such an extent that it requires treatment.

"It can be abnormal but be OK," Dr. Fisher notes.

Consider spiders, for example. You may have a terrible fear of spiders, but if you never encounter spiders, or you can get someone else to handle them for you, that phobia may have little or no impact on your life. It doesn't impair your ability to go about your normal routine.

"Would we recommend therapy in a case like that?" Dr. Fisher asks. "No. The condition may be diagnosable but not require therapy. You're in need of therapy when something impairs your functioning."

Some critics even contend that too many characteristics or quirks are being pathologized — labeled abnormal — to make money. The pharmaceutical industry in particular has come under fire for bringing new drugs to market to treat recently labeled conditions that used to be chalked up to harmless eccentricity.

But there is a bit of good news amid the controversy.

"We have a lot of effective treatments for the things out there that are considered abnormal," Dr. Williams says. "Chances are, something is going to help you."

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Something to consider. perhaps something of value put into perspective.

Hugs

Danielle Marie

Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 6:57 am
by Absaroka
Thanks Danielle,

As someone who has known quite a few people with serious mental illness over the years I don't have any problem with the idea that some of us need very serious help in this area, and that a few of us need to be protected from ourselves or society from us.

But then there is that continuum. None of us are perfectly normal.

Actually I think that there are quite a few corrolarys in physical health. After all good physical health ultimately ends in death so what is healthy and normal at say age 100?

Mental health has also been used as a means of enforcing societal norms. Many of these norms are open to question and I personally think some should be totally discarded but I think that some sort of societal norms are neccessary. We have come to see the same in physical health. Take the example of straight teeth. We spend all this money on braces for our kids when there in most cases is no real medical reason to need straight teeth. But society has defined crooked teeth as abnormal and then applied that "truth" to the most vulnerable portion of our society, namely girls in their early teens wondering who they are and thinking they are defined by their appearance. I'm not saying anyone is actually sitting in rooms plotting but this would make a great conspiracy theory.

As Frank Zappa said " there will come a day when you won't even be ashamed if you are fat" There are lots of good medical reasons for not wanting to be obese but most of us go for the societal one of some arbitrary idea of attractiveness.

Absaroka

Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 10:50 am
by Danielle La Belle
:lol: Speaking of crooked teeth in real time, my bottom row is defined as "crowded," and could use the benefits of straigthening. It would give them more gap allowing for better flossing and gum health to be maintained. As I have aged, age 58 in August, I can now see a valid reason for doing this as my mother, age 90, lost her bottom teeth to this same condition. Of course, I am paranoid on such matters :lol: so I brush and floss perhaps better than my mother did during those critical years that she may not have.

Ah, your input is very insightful Absaroka, you sound as if you have a good base education and experience level. I agree in so much that we have become surrounded with "big pharma" advertising for just about everything. As the MayoClinic article points out, "Some critics even contend that too many characteristics or quirks are being pathologized — labeled abnormal — to make money. The pharmaceutical industry in particular has come under fire for bringing new drugs to market to treat recently labeled conditions that used to be chalked up to harmless eccentricity."

With the plethora of new drugs and treatments based on the aging population, it seems like every day is a new opportunity to tell me what is wrong with me and that there is a cure. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Hugs

Danielle Marie

Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 12:52 pm
by CJ
Ah, good ol' Eccentricity! How I miss her so!

Good article, Danielle. Thanks for posting it.

I agree with Absaroka that mental health standards are often used as a tool for "normalizing" behaviour.

What can we do to counter this dehumanizing process? Easy: don't be normal and don't be afraid to flaunt your abnormality.

I'm 44 years old and I've yet to meet a normal person in my life. Such a creature is a phantom, I think, a chimera.

As the article pointed out, our eccentricities become a problem only if they prevent us from functioning. When that happens, it's important to seek help. Otherwise, just be who you are. I mean, do you have a choice, really?

Love,
CJ

Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 4:51 pm
by Virginia
Great information ladies and yes "perception is reality!" and CJ to say you have never met a normal person in your life, Honey that hurts me to the quick! I am as normal as you are!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:
As for our ability to function - I function quite well thank you - anti-social behavior - who me??? Only if you want to give Ms. Virginia Lindsey a hard time then you will see anit-social behavior.
What I get out of this is that given the vast vast diversity of human development and the fact that there can be (what 3 billion people) on this "veil of tears" and no two alike! Who the hell has the right to say who is "normal" and who isn't? Yes there are those that function outside of what a lot of us would consider to be "acceptable behavior" or those who need the help of "fellow travelers" inorder to subsist, but we try and meet those needs and move on. The lady that I care for is 71 years old and has miocardial infarct dementia - not long ago she taught "higher mathmatics" to engineering students and a large university, now she can do virtually nothing for herself - is she abnormal? She is aware of most everythig going on around her, she just can not respond to it - abnormal ? I don't respond to a lot of the stupidity that I see going on around me does that make me abnormal?
I think this research and the published articles are great! What it does do is for "us" in our "universe" as crossdressers just further comfirms that we are not crazy; that we do have a "gift" and if we learn to understand it and share it not only can it make us "a little less crazy" but heaven forbid why we make make someone else a little less crazy and isn't that what we are here for anyway to make someone else's journey or in our case our "Magical Mystery Tour" a little bit nicer/easier!!!!??
Love you,
Virginia

Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 5:45 pm
by Danielle La Belle
Hi girls:

Do not overlook the following:

"It can be abnormal but be OK," Dr. Fisher notes."

"You're in need of therapy when something impairs your functioning."

"The Surgeon General's 1999 report on mental health states that mental disorders are "health conditions that are characterized by alterations in thinking, mood, or behavior (or some combination thereof) associated with distress and/or impaired functioning."

"And something may be normal or acceptable within your own family that's considered abnormal and in need of changing outside of your home. "

I think that we are okay. That is what I get from this article. We are middle of the road people for the most part.

Hugs

Danielle Marie

Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 9:08 pm
by Virginia
Danielle,
Honey, I am not making light of your posts, I admire and respect you, but I just can't let this go with out a hopefully understood light hearted, but serious comment! This lady, Virginia is not in the middle of the road - she is in the passing lane and has the petal to the metal and Her Passenger (who will remain nameless) is urging her on and girl we are flying!!!!!!!!! Catch us if you can!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Love ya,
Virginia

Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 10:03 pm
by CJ
:-k Hmmm...

Just remember, Virginia dear: "Keep your eyes on the road and your hands upon the wheel!"

:lol:

CJ

Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 8:40 am
by Danielle La Belle
Virginia..... you Go girlfriend!!!

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Hugs for Sure...

Danielle Marie

We are all normal human beings

Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 5:55 pm
by Jeannie
We just get in trouble if we break the rules set by those who are special. I loved your nose to the wall idea Danielle. Get 10 feet away and everything becomes clearer. Not exactly Danielle. What about us nearsighted humans? We can't see a darn thing from that distance. Remember that we are all different and what works for one doesn't work for another. I'm 55 and have told everyone in my life about me in the last few months and let the chips fall where they may. It's been the ride of my life. If you want a true learning experience try it Danielle. It's just fabulous! You'll find out who your real friends are. Hugs and lipstick kisses.

Love
Jeannie

PS. My ex Mini's girlfriends and whole family never speak to me anymore. My 19 and 22 year old just love Jeannie and still stay with me. My son is gay and my daughter and I are both 8 petite and she borrows my clothes. How many fathers do you know share their clothes with their daughters? :) Life is finally good. If you live your life as someone else you end up as no one. When you lay all the cards on the table those in the game can play or fold. It's up to them. Not me. Life is short. Don't go to the grave crying,screaming and kicking as the person you are not. I will die happy. People like us give ourselves a prison sentence of life in solitary confinement. I finally tunneled out and I'm never going back. :)

Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 7:29 pm
by Danielle La Belle
I was told once that if you have money, you are eccentric; if not, you are crazy in doing the very same thing! So in considering that, and being 10 feet away (a metaphor, Jeannie), I think that not everyone can just "let go." There are others to consider in the scheme of things. There are those that think, "me, myself and I" are the only important ones in the house. We quickly do find out of course whom are our friends but it can be for some, a very serious altercation; one that cannot be simply executed even with great consideration.

I think that there are some for the most part that accomodate and adjust to a dual personality arrangement. All or nothing can leave us with a pretty empty basket. I prefer to go half-way and make both sides work for me. I can have it all if I am willing to see the value of my he-she personality and employ it in a positive way for my gain and the gain of others around me. Heads or tales, there is plenty of room to live in the middle. :lol: :) :lol: :)

Hugs

Danielle Marie

I was never a middle man

Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 8:19 pm
by Jeannie
I have to live my life as who I am. I'm a bit more than just a crossdresser and have known it since age 7. The boys were playing baseball and I was jumping rope. I still can do a mean double Dutch! :lol: Everyone is unique. If you like living in the middle fine. It's not for me. Coming out was the best thing I've ever done in my life and I was sick and tired of protecting others from me at my own expense. Being in the middle is safe but coming out is dangerous. If you want to be safe your whole life knock yourself out. You will find it is not nearly as bad as you thought. My Aunt Pearl who I grew up with is in an assisted living and all the people there know of Jeannie and I go dressed all the time. I have great understanding friends who still come over and I go to their homes as Jeannie and it's great. My best friend Gary died at 52 last year and his wife Chris also knows of me and I go down to her home in Clinton CT almost every weekend to work on her house. After working I glam up a bit and usually her sister and her friend Kimmie come over and I cook and we watch a movie or play scrabble and it's great fun. Her whole family knows of me and are wonderful. I was at her brother Mark's the other night dressed and we were having a beer and watching the game together. His wife Hilary just loves me.If you want to live as prisoner in your own home fine. That's not me at all. I want to enjoy my life. I'm not a bad person. Just different. But now I'm all dressed up and somewhere to go. It's nice living life. Everyone else gets to do it. Why not me? It's not selfish. It's everyones right as a human being. That's all. Hugs.


Love
Jeannie

PS Life is very short. Play hard or someone else will do it for you. And you will regret it.You can't go back. By the way my avatar is little Jeannie years after she knew. I'm such a poser! That's just me Honey!

Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 9:28 pm
by Danielle La Belle
Hi Jeannie:

What prisoner? :lol:

It's all what you make of it girlfriend. Never set out to change someone else and you will never be disappointed. What makes happy is fine with me. Life is a journey for which we all take our own road.

Hugs

Danielle Marie

I was disappointed for not changing myself

Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 10:50 pm
by Jeannie
Prisoner: noun A person deprived of his liberty and kept under involuntary restraint,confinement or custody. Sounds a bit like us doesn't it?I don't want to change anyone. All I would like to do is set some of you free. We are a bit too self absorbed at times and think everyone out there will focus on us but most people don't care at all. We might rate a "Hey Honey. I saw a man in a dress at the mall!" Then it is quickly forgotten.
I don't really know any of you. Whether you are heterosexual,gay,bi sexual or trans sexual. Maybe men that dress for fun or erotic pleasure. That's fine. Going out is very liberating for me and I'm not going back into that box.
What stops most is the tyranny of passing. You Danielle look great for 58 and look very much like a woman. My body can pass but my face is a males but that's where it ends for me. Maybe I just feel that it would be nice if all us could feel as I now feel. But then again I'm a little more than a man in a dress. About ten percent of my clothes are mens. I'm very lucky to have my own hair at 55. Donald Trump eat your heart out. I sent you all a kiss in my avatar. I'm such a girly girl I can't stand myself sometimes! :lol: Love you all.Hugs

Love
Jeannie

Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 10:18 am
by Danielle La Belle
Hi Jeannie:

It sounds like you are having the time of your life! I for one am happy that you have sucessfully integrate your fem self so well. This reminds me of a woman one Christmas that was in a store and she found the toy she was looking for. The only problem was, several people were ahead of her and in "a physical leap of faith," she grabbed onto the last pink stuffed doll with great gusto. A free-for-all ensued! But darn if she did not come away unscathed with that pink baby doll.

Jumping into the social fray is really not available at this time for me. I do go out and on occassion, have had a really good time in my point of view. Alas, it is a fleeting moment for many as we return the next day to reality and daily life. I tilt at windmills when the opportunity presents itself, otherwise, I drone on to meet the status quo.

I have 3 grandchildren that live 5 minutes from me and my TG status is still a bone of contention with my loved ones. So, while it has calmed down to some degree the past 5 years, I feel compelled to adjust accordingly.

Hugs

Danielle Marie