Beam me up Scottie.....

[Karren Hutton]

I was watching a Star Trek special last night, on all the memoribelia that they just sold... And they had some video from some Trek conventions... And as I'm listening to these people dressed in their Trek getup.... Dang they sound like they could be crossdressers... The simularities were amazing..

Clothing that they normally don't wear in their regular life, makeup, like to meet and talk to others that dress the same... Buy all kinds of things to enhance their presentation, go to conventions...

One husband and wife were talking about that they had regular jobs and normal lives, its just what they enjoy doing from time to time... So what's the difference? Between and Trek fanatic or a sports fanatic that wears their team atire and paints themselves up on Sundays in the fall?? Only difference I see is we route for different teams than they do!! Hehehe.

Love long and prosper..... Ohhhh and dress pretty!!

Love Karren

[JoAnnDallas]

Remember the episode (orginal series) where Kirk and a female crew member had switched bodies.

[Maria]

Many years ago, I remember seeing George Takei (Sulu) at my one and only Star Trek convention. During that convention, he mentioned about the famous bald officer in Star Trek:The Motion Picture. The actress (the late Persis Khambatta) literally shaved her head bald before she auditioned for the role!

I like the famous minidresses that the female Enterprise crewmembers wore. Nichelle Nichols (Uhura) was the one who suggested to producer Gene Roddenberry that they should wear skirts instead of pants.

The pilot episode "The Cage" and "Where No Man has Gone Before" from season #1 are the only episodes in which all the female crew members wore pants!

Maria

[CJ]

Hi all,

From a closet Trekkie, here: the episode JoAnn is referring to is called, appropriately enough, "Turnabout Intruder," where Kirk's former flame, Janice Lester, manages to seize control of both Kirk's body as well as the Enterprise. Priceless moment: "Kirk" sitting in the Captain's chair on the bridge, filing his nails as "he" fields complaints from his officers. Of course, the premise of this episode (which was the final one of the series, by the way) only works if you're a committed dualist.



Love,
CJ

[Absaroka]

I particularly enjoyed Lieutenant Dax's comment in DS9 when they redid the tribbles episode. Sisko commented that the mens wore a different type of uniform and Dax added that the women wore..."less".

I loved all 5 of the Star Trek series. DS9 was my favorite because it showed humanity with it's back to the wall. After that I liked Next Generation the most I think.

I agree about the similarities between CDing for some of us and being a trekkie. On the other hand for someone who is transgendered this is no longer an amusement, it's life and death to some extent and the comparison is innappropriate.

We can credit Star Trek with playing a small part in societies general tolerance I think. TV's first interracial kiss is a famous example. Consider that this was more controversial than interspecies marriage as in Spock being half human and half Vulcan..... and all the episodes that explored family and mating in other species. Or the episode with the species that was so ugly that looking at it would drive people insane, thus only the blind could communicate with them. Or was it that they were so beautiful that they drove the viewer insane? That question was never answered. The whole Trill joined species idea was also pretty out there if you ask me. And I loved the DS9 episode where the wormhole aliens are challeged to act like the gods they have chosen to portray themselves as and they then destroy an entire Dominion fleet. Definitely Old Testament type diety and it put me in mind of how the Israelites must have felt watching the Egyptians drown in the Red Sea. What a contrast to the Organians who simple declare peace unilateraly. Not standard tv fare these days.

It is also fascinating (to borrow a word) to watch some of the old original series episodes and see how the perception of women has changed since then.

Absaroka

[Stephanie W]

From a closet Trekkie, here

Who knew CJ was still in the closet.....!

Clothing that they normally don't wear in their regular life, makeup, like to meet and talk to others that dress the same... Buy all kinds of things to enhance their presentation, go to conventions...

I guess we might be "Crossdrekkies" then.

Stephanie

[Absaroka]

drek is human refuse I think.... I'd rather thing of another word

Absaroka

[SilverLady(SO)]

Hmmm. . . SW's is right. I, too, thought that CJ was out of the closet!!

Absaroka - How about Crosstrekkies, instead?

* Hugs *

- SL

[Absaroka]

I like it

Absaroka

[Lisbeth]

Live long and dress proper.
Lisbeth
Star Fleet Academy

[Jaye]

On a similar note, I'm going to Purgatory again this weekend, and this month's theme is "Scifi Fetish". It'll be interesting to see what various people's interpretation of this means.

[SilverLady(SO)]

Well, Jaye, I'll be dressed in my version of Sci-Fi 'Royalty', but Virginia has yet to decide on an outfit.

Hmmmm. . . should I wear a tiara, too?

- SL

[Miss Emma]

First off, trekkies ^^ Star Wars forever! Let's see some stupid "phasers" kill Darth Vader!

With that out of my system, I do agree with the idea that convention dressers and cross dressers are very simlar. In fact, I am going to an anime/comic convention later in January (I might even go to another one!) in the cons, I will be dressed up as a charachter (a guy character) from a video game me and my friend adore. We have talked to many Cosplayers (anime/comic dressers) and the there are indeed many things about them that are similar, with the large exception that society is alot, and I mean ALOT more friendly to them then us.

On another note, I asked my friend if I could go as Ritsu, a character from a comic who cross-dresses, but she wont let me >.<
I told her I cross-dress, and she says it's ok, it doesn't bother her...but then again, it CAN be hard to come across a kimono..I might try making my own....

[Kendra Lynn]

Hello all: For those of you who are unaware, there is quite a cross over between the TG community and the science fiction/fantasy/comix community generally.
All the similarities mentioned in the previous postings are true, but I think there' something else a little deeper also.
Having attended both TG conventions (several International Foundation for Gender Education gatherings) and sf/fantasy/comix events, what I've come to believe is that a good number of the folks attending both sorts of events are more intelligent than average and also very aware of their differences from "mainstream" society.
It would seem to me that TG's would naturally be drawn to cultural opportunities and expressions where "differences" from the norm were celebrated and examined.
If you don't want to attend a convention, further evidence of the cross-over between the TG community and the sf/fantasy/comix community can be found on TG fiction web sites such as FICTIONMANIA (look for stories grouped under "Popular Culture"), where, for instance, authors of "fan fiction" will blend TG elements into stories featuring superheroes and/or other science fiction type characters.
I am not an "anime" fan (no reflection on quality of the work-- I just grew up too late) but am aware of a phenomenon called "cosplay" where people dress as their favorite "anime" characters. Some of the folks involved in this "cross dress."
Myself-- I'm looking for a "vintage" (late 1950's through late 1960's) SUPERGIRL outfit. (1. I prefer that look, and 2. I could never wear the midriff revealing outfit the latest incarnation of SUPERGIRL favors.)
Best wishes to everyone for the holiday season.
Peace-- Kendra Lynn ("hippie cheerleader")

[Absaroka]

I wonder how many trekkies crossdress at conventions? Men dressed as Uhura or Dax or (my favorite) B'Lanna Torres? There was a cd in the femdirectory at one time called B'Lanna......

And then remember that all the Hortas are female. BUt would a Horta costume be crossdressing?

Absaroka