No panties or bra

[Judy W]

I was wondering if you would consider someone that doesn't wear a bra or panty one of us. She just wore pantyhose. All the rest was okay.
What do you think of no bra or panty?

[Stephanie H]

What does "one of us mean"
Stephanie

[Erin L]

Also not sure what "all the rest was okay" means, either.

[Judy W]

I meant was would you consider her a CD sister if she didn't wear a bra or panty. That is all.

[Brenda Anne]

Judy, Everyone is different, If she likes to wear panty hose, nothing wrong with that in my humble opinion, I like to wear panty hose too.

[Leeza]

We each have own own level of comfort or desire. Then too some of us started with one item and later have gone to enjoying more. For me it was the bra but now I enjoy anything fem I can wear.

Leeza

[Absaroka]

My wife often goes braless and my daughter likes to wear mens underwear.

I think that unfortunately the bottom line is you are a cd when society labels you a cd, even if it is both covert dressing and a covert label.

Absaroka

[Elizabeth]

Judy,

I would say it depends on context and intentions. When I lived in Wyoming I knew men that wore pantyhose because they help keep one warm when the weather is sub-zero and the wind is blowing 30 mph. However they were not crossdressers in the sense we would think of them.

For almost 14 years I wore only girls panties and sometimes stockings, but nothing else. However I did wear them because they were a female article of clothing. I did it to resolve my gender dysphoria. To me, that is crossdressing. So I would say that if he wears pantyhose, simply because they are an article of female clothing, he may very well be a crossdresser.

The only other explanation would be transvestic fetishism. However if this were the case he probably would not wear them except to masturbate. I would say that if he thinks he is a crossdresser, he is.

Love always,
Elizabeth

[Erin L]

I would say that if he thinks he is a crossdresser, he is.

I think that says it all.

[Virginia]

That's our Elizabeth, right to the heart of the matter.

Was it Plato? Not, but "I think, therefore I am!"

Love you girlfriend! and yes we can be a complex lot can we not!?

Virginia

[Erin L]

I think.
I think I am.
Therefore, I am.
...I think.

- Moody Blues, c. 1968

[Kay]

I'm pink, therefore I'm Spam!

[DonnaT]

Like Elizabeth alluded to, if he wears them because he likes them, he's CDing. If he wears them for practical reasons, or medical, he's not CDing.

[Ann Stef]

Panty hose is fine to wear, if panties and bra don't suit a person. "The rest is OK" can be determined by some as mean that the outer garmets are suitable for crossdressers to wear. A nice dress, or skirt & blouse, looks pretty. Not too many CD's will lift the skirt or dress to see if it is pantyhose or panties under of someone else. The overall appearance is what most of us look at.

[KimberlyS]

The first time I read this I did not answer because everyone did such a great job. But something just hit me re-reading it. This is a very valid question. Because I have chatted with some CD/TG's that believed that the only "real" cross dresser was one that fully dressed and tried to pass. The rest were not real cross dressers or were on their way to being their idea of a real cross dresser. So depending on who you get your first information from this could be very confusing for someone. And btw, those were also the cross dressers that pushed others to do more and to be their idea of who a "real" cross dresser was.

kimberlys-cd
joe in a skirt