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So… Now I come into another hard question that have a little to do with crossdressing… That is stealing.
So, basically, according to what everyone said, stealing is not right and it is a bad thing to do. I think like that too, stealing is not right, but actually, I stole like 7-10 times already.
… And I just stole other stuffs yesterday, I stole a skirt, a pair of pantyhose and a pair of girl shoe.
Yesterday night, when I got home from my cousin house, I putted all of the girl cloth I have on, and I feel great. I was dressing in full girl cloth (I have bra, panty, top, skirt, sock, hair pin, shoe) and all I need is a wig. Get on the bed, turn the light off, I began to let my female side come out, and again I feel the pleasure of being a girl. But then suddenly, a frighten thought come through my head: “Is stealing wrong?”
I really can’t answer it… I know stealing is wrong, because when we steal from other people it doesn’t make them happy and if they do that to us we wouldn’t be happy either. But even when I know that is wrong, I stole some stuff over and over time again. I keep stealing girl cloth and hair pin from my cousin and sister. I know that I am not suppose to do that, but I really want to! I really want it and the feeling keeps telling me: “Just take it, she have other girl stuff to wear”.
So what should I do?
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Post by Michelle M »

I would advise not to steal. I forget how old you are, but maybe you could get a job to earn a little money to buy your own things. Eventually you'll get caught stealing these things and then have to explain both your stealing and your dressing at the same time.
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Michelle M wrote:I would advise not to steal. I forget how old you are, but maybe you could get a job to earn a little money to buy your own things. Eventually you'll get caught stealing these things and then have to explain both your stealing and your dressing at the same time.
*this*

Then, when you have to say "Well, I stole ____", it'll cast everything else in a bad light, as most folks tend to see the bad things first, and cast judgment from there...
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I agree with the Michelles. Stealing is a very bad idea. Sooner or later your cousins will figure out what's going on, and when they do it wont go well for you.

But most of all it's about your own pride. You've got enough challenges with your gender gender issues. When things go badly , you need to be able to look at yourself in the mirror and say "I'm a good person. I'm an honest person. I have a right to be who I am." You need to be your own best friend.
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The problem with stealing is that you have a victim. The owner of the shop you stole from has to make that loss up because they have had to pay for the stock. This means higher prices for the rest of us.

However, I'm wondering whether there might be an underlying cause: you don't need the stuff you stole other than so you can dress as a female. Is this the problem? I'm wondering whether sub-consciously you want to be caught so that you can get help with your gender issues.

Why not go and see someone about it?
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Post by Paula G »

I can sympathise with your situation, when I was in my earlier teens, I too would steel items of clothing from my cousin, friends (and friends' sisters) etc. I was wracked with guilt about stealing, but loved wearing the clothes so much that like you I almost convinced myself it was OK.

Well needless to say I got caught, there is not much that a boy can hide from his mother, I then had such a difficult job to explain my compulsion, and had no sympathy or understanding from Mum. I think it was a coment from my Aunt who noticed things gpoing astray that started the suspicions, I went from troubled to trouble, or if you like from the frying pan into the fire.

Be carefull, excercise caution untill you are sure you are safe, stop the stealing, [-X I know it's hard, I know you want the clothes so bad, but the consiquences of getting caught - and you will get caught - are much worse. Try to content yourself with what you have, save the little money you do have to buy yourself a treat, occasionally, very occasionally. It is bad enough that we feel we have to be furtive about our complusion to dress, without adding further problems.

Most of us here are of mature years and maybe find it difficult to remember how difficult it is be a teenager, especially one like us. It may seem very easy for us to say it is wrong to steal, don't do, but not to offer anyalternative sources of clothing. I don't know your full situation, but look out for the charity, or thrift shops, choose with care go for the special item in the shop that you realy want, not ust anything available, and look for other inexpensive alternatives to new clothes from the high street shops.

But I have to say again, don't steal, you will get caught, I did I got caught and it was horible, the thought of it now is still horrible around 40 years later, oh yes and it also meant that I lost all "my" girl clothes and the trust of my mother, for a long time.
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I'm along the same lines as Tara. I think you want to get caught. But it does have a thoroughly self-destructive quality, what you write. I know that mood and it won't help. There's a kind of intoxication to what you're doing - and then you wake up from the drug, or get woken up.

Stop it while you can. You need to put some money aside, or get a little job, so you can afford to buy some clothes, like Paula says.
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Tiana, I am going to agree with everyone here, Stealing is fundamentally Wrong. I do not know if you are religious, you don't have to be but there is a commandment that says "Thou shalt not steal". Try and return what you can to your cousin and do as Michelle said " get a job" or if you can save an allowance for some things. There has got to be a better way. Stealing will get you in trouble and if you keep it up it will have the potential to become addictive. This kind of behavior will put your cross dressing in a very bad light. Best of luck to you, We all are here to help in what way we can. You need to help yourself too.

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Post by Tiana »

Yes, i know, but there are some problem:

1. I cant get a job, cuz im only 13.
2. My dad never give me any allowence cuz if i ever want something, ask him and he will get it if he approve it.
3. I dont steal from shop keeper, only from my cousin, and only "what she doesn't wear anymore".
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Post by Leeza »

Tiana, it is still better not to steal. As others have said stealing is not right and lowers what people think of you when you get caught.

Have you thought about asking your cousin for some things she doesn't want or use? She may b more respective than you think.

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Tiana,
I will just add to the others, and repeat: "stealing is wrong". Now, wearing the clothes that you like is not necessarily wrong, but stealing them is.
That is easy for us to say, we can easily buy what we like and not worry about it. For you, who are 13 and dependent on explaining to your dad what you want, so he will buy it for you, it is a difficult situation.
So your choices seem to be: a) simply go without until you can afford to buy your own clothes; b) make some arrangement with your cousin to give you what she doesn't wear anymore; c) talk your dad into giving you the means to buy what you want.

Those are the honest and honorable solutions. It's hard enough to explain crossdressing, believe me. But to try to justify stealing for the sake of crossdressing is really a losing proposition, you don't what to try that.
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Hi Tiana
Getting cought stealing womens clothes is something that could blight your life even more so than some serious crimes. There is a young man living near me who was cought with his neighbours underware when he was a teenager and now in his thirties he is still known as the "knicker thief". He has no respect in the community and never had a decent job even during the boom years. Whereas there are people in my country (Ireland) who are convicted bombers and gunmen and they are respected highly paid politicians!!! People do not forgive or forget certain crimes even as insignificant as stealing a pair of panties worth a few dollars because it is seen as serious invasion of a womans intimate space and is viewed as a perversion. Society is wary of men who wear womens clothes but they are frightened of men who steal them. For your own good stop stealing before you get cought and do without until you can buy your own.
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i dont like people that steal. if you want something so bad, go get a job and earn money and buy it like everyone else.
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By time they were 13 both my daughters had various odd jobs that they got paid for like shovelling snow, raking leaves, babysitting. Can you talk to your dad about having some regular chores and an allowance? In any event pay for your clothing the way you pay for anything else you buy. Goodwill is cheap.....so is Walmart. Panty hose is only a couple of bucks, a skirt at Goodwill not much more. At 13 you should be able to scrape together a few dollars. If you are asking your father for money every time you buy a candy bar you have another problem.

When I was a boy and needed things I used my school lunch money and just didn't eat, although I don't really recommend that.

I wonder is there anything going on about you want it to be your cousins clothing as opposed to anyone elses? Do they need to be your cousins clothing?

You say she doesn't need them anymore. How do you know? Is she throwing them away or giving them to Goodwill? Taking clothing out of the garbage or the bag going to Goodwill is not stealing.

Climbing into be and leting your girl come out sounds like one of many euphemisms used here. I can hear your cousin now- "you stole my panty hose and did WHAT in them?"
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Tell your dad that you need an allowance so you can learn to manage money. I'll bet he will go for it.
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