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Hi Beauty,

I can imagine it would be difficult, actually, to have both parents and children on the same board (oh! the possible flame wars there! I shudder to think about it.)

My mother was asking me what the tone of my "Beginnings" story was. I told her it wasn't negative (well, maybe a little) and it wasn't positive (not completely so, anyway); basically, it was just honest. She was very intrigued and this led to a conversation the likes of which we hadn't had in a very long time. 8)

And this is where boards and forums such as this provide an invaluable service: they create openings and possibilities for further understanding and communication between people, related or not.

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Hi CJ,

I agree. I love what these boards provide. :)

What did your mother say when you told her how much of struggle it was when you were younger?

I didn't take it as negative btw, it was just a very powerful read.

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Hi Beauty,

Well, like I said, she's always been receptive and open to whatever my needs were regarding my "difficulties" (as she called my TVism when I was a kid); I was the one who kept myself to myself.

The conversation we had last night was different, in that it focused on her experience as the mother of a child she knew to be troubled and how utterly helpless she felt at the time. It was an eye-opener for me because, wrapped up as I sometimes am in my own centre, I'd never really thought about the fact that my pain might be causing my parents pain also. And she said this, not out of any desire to induce a guilt trip, but out of a simple love for her children. "My house is your house." Your pain is my pain.

She was a bit defensive last night, though. I tried to put her at ease by explaining that, first, I no longer blame anyone for who I am and, second, I love who I am, so these days I'm more apt to search for someone I can praise, not criticize, for this. She admitted that, for most of her life, she was very naive (I think she still is in a lot of ways and that's part of her beauty :) ) so that she might as well have had a better chance at understanding lunar eclipses than crossdressing. She told me two things last night that surprised me a little: one, she never pressed the issue of my having been caught in women's clothes because she wanted to respect my privacy and was afraid to embarass me. Can you believe that? I told her: Ma! Embarass me! Embarass me! I wish she hadn't given up so easily. (Then again, that may have entailed possible therapy--and I would most certainly be a different, and not necessarily better, person today.) I told her not to fret anyway, what's passed is past. The second surprising thing she told me was that she was aware that she and I were too close when I was a child (I used to love to watch her dress, play with her clothes--not wear, just play with--and brush her hair), but was powerless to prevent that: her need for me (as her first child and the only positive thing in her life back then) was just too great. I had a hard time convincing her not to feel so many regrets for what could have been and how things might have been. Be here, now! I told her. Now is when we both are! I tell you, Beauty, it was a very emotional conversation. One I was very glad to have. We laughed, we cried. It was good.

You know, I've heard it said that all men look for their mother in their SO. I don't agree. I think all men look for a nurturing soul in their SO. Men are often wounded creatures and, like all wounded creatures, they either lash out or hide themselves to tend to their wounds alone. I think us girls may have an advantage over most men, in that we try to reach into ourselves and bring out that nurturing aspect that we so long to find in the women in our lives, be they friends, mothers or SOs. No, as T-Girls, I think we look for ourselves in our SOs. Hopefully we can do so in a way that allows our SOs to find within us what they need too. And, this, above all: I truly believe that it's the looking, not necessarily the finding, that makes us better human beings.

Sorry for the soapbox stuff there, Beauty! (I may have to cut down on the joe a bit! :wink: )

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Hi Christina,

Well, first it's wasn't soapbox at all. :) :P

It's cool that reading something here helped you discuss issues with your mom. It seems this coversation helped a close relationship get even closer. :)

We really do have a great little family here. :)

I do think GMs look for a nuturer, but I've been told my wife looks like my mom. :) Talk about a turn off!! :) lol Whenever anyone would tell me, I'd be like, "SHUT UP ALREADY!" ;)

I agree about TG'd folks being nurturers though. I feel people who don't know it come to me all the time because of my femme listening quality. That's a total "I think". Maybe there's another reason. :)

Thanks for sharing the conversation with your mom Christina!!! :) That was awesome! ;)

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Hi Beauty,

I think you're right about your own femme listening quality--don't be bashful! 8)

I've been reading your posts and your replies, and you strike me as, not only a warm and caring person, but an inviting one also. You almost always encourage others to share themselves and open themselves up. You're obviously genuinely interested in who others are and aren't afraid to let them know. That's a very precious quality! You go, girl! :wink:

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Thank you very much Christina :) . . . 8-[ :oops: 8-[

:: nervous laugh :: lol

:) You are very kind. :)

I think it's the goodness of the whole board and nice people that bring it out in me. :)

I wish I could take the credit, but there are so many very interesting people to get to know here. YAY US!! \:D/

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Hi Beauty,

But of course, but of course, my dear. You are right. It is a "feel good" board, with friendly and helpful members all around. But I still think Shannon and Sharon couldn't have picked a better moderator, given the inviting nature of your personality. Please, Beauty, take at least that much credit, eh? I'm not throwing flowers to the wind, here! :wink:

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:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

You're awesome. *giggles*

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BTW, Beauty, can you help me out here? How do I let people know that I'm on Yahoo Messenger? I don't know what to write in the blank Yahoo Messenger space on my board profile. :(
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CJ wrote:BTW, Beauty, can you help me out here? How do I let people know that I'm on Yahoo Messenger? I don't know what to write in the blank Yahoo Messenger space on my board profile. :(
Hi Christina,

:) (that's for what you said above)

Now to your question. Put your Yahoo username in the blank field and save your profile. Now a Yahoo icon will appear below your posts.

A little more than what you asked for.
By users clicking on the icon below your posts they will be able to contact you. If you're online it will display a message from the user to you. if you're not online it will leave a message for when you do sign on.

I hope this helps.

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It does. Thanks again, Beauty! :wink:

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Hi, CJ:

I just had a thought in regard to your conception that we're looking for ourselves in our SOs (which makes a lot of sense to me.)
The connection is a two-way street, and I would think if the SOs in our life made their own connection in part because of what they sensed in us--something about our feminine selves is appealing to them. I know in my own case that I am the total reverse of my SOs father--a sexist and insensitive brute--and that many of the things that she cares about in me are things I at least associate with my femme side. (She once told me--before she knew about my crossdressing--that I she thought I would have been happier if I'd been born a woman.)
This is just conjecture, and I don't want to suggest that I have insights that I really don't, but your ideas set me to thinking about this.
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Hi Sara,

Thanks for you reply. Yes, I do think the opposite may be true too. I always keep in mind, though, that we also look for something in our SOs that "completes" us in some way, something that we feel we lack, something that makes us whole.

As far as claiming insights you think may not be valid. Pooh-pooh, I say, Sara. You alone are the one best placed to evaluate what does or doesn't apply to your own case. Yes, it's tempting to generalize (I'm guilty as charged, your Honour! :oops: ) but, first of all, and even though we're all trying to give each other a hand here, we can only really, truly understand our own situation; any insights in that regard are necessarily valid, and, second, the beauty of a place such as this is that it allows us to think out loud and to bounce ideas off each other. Nothing I've written so far in my posts may be valid (except to myself) and I'd never know if my views, insights, and opinions are valid if I don't make them publicly known without fear of rejection or condemnation. Without conjecture, our brains go hungry. So please, Sara, don't be squeamish! Share with us what you think and who you are, without reserve. :wink:

I'm curious: do you think your SO's relationship with her father is an influence on her feelings and thoughts about your being a CD?

Hope to hear from you soon.

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CJ,

If you do a search under family of CD/TG it should turn something up as I have seen boards for this before. I'm sorry that I cannot remember exactly where because it was not what I was looking for but they do exist!

Good Luck!

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Hi Lefty,

Thanks for the input. I've tried searches for this a couple of times, but without success. I'll have to dig a little deeper, methinks. :-s

My mother's actually more of a computer nerd than I am in a lot of ways; it's possible she may find her own road to some of these places. But, again, thanks.

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