About cross-dressing...and this forum.

[Marda]

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[CJ]

Hi all,

Marda,

I'm sorry for your loss; you have my condolences.

If any candle you find, here on the forum, helps you feed the fire within, then all the better. You're in my heart and in my thoughts.

Love,
CJ

[Elizabeth]

Deborah,

Read this.

http://www.upscale.utoronto.ca/GeneralI ... eSlit.html

And this.

http://www.upscale.utoronto.ca/GeneralI ... odCat.html

It is really interesting if you are into that kind of thing. It explains what I said, only much better. No big deal if you are not really interested.

Basically things don't happen until they do. And if we look, something always happens. But when we don't look, particles stay in a "superposition" of all the possible things they can do. So when we are limited to knowing either the position or the speed of a particle, such as dictated by Heisenberg's uncertainty pricinple, the future truely does not happen until it is realized, meaning there can be no predermination. The future truely is uncertain.

Love always,
Elizabeth

[CJ]

Hi all,

Elizabeth,

As a collapsing wave function, even the reality of the present is uncertain! Go figure.

Now, I'm off to draw myself a nice quantum foam bubble bath!

Love,
CJ

[Elizabeth]

CJ,



I KNEW IT !!!!!!!!!

I knew you were sandbagging. You already know all about this, and it sounds like you are much better versed than I. I look forward to your continued enlightenments in this regard.

Love always,
Elizabeth

[CJ]

Hi all,

Oh, Elizabeth, stop it, will you! I'm a dilettante and I'm the first to admit it. These subjects interest me, but by no means can I consider myself knowledgeable enough about them to refer to them in any seriously academic way. No, I'm really a "soft sciences" kind of gal (my own studies were in religion, not science).

Love,
CJ

P.S.
I like your signature quote, by the way. Here's a Thai proverb my mother e-mailed me a while back: "Man running through airport turnstile going to Bangkok."

[Danielle La Belle]

A"hug fest" is certainly better than a verbal "slug fest!"


I put my hand up to the monitor as a child might to a hot stove, and quickly pulled back as the natural sensors told me this is to hot to handle! The "neurons" are really pulsating (if they can do that), in this thread.

I will have to do some reading in my "quantum physics" handbook of theoretical knowledge before I can accurately contribute to this advanced sojourn into the unseen realm of our universe.

I crave this like a "choc-a-holic;" can never get enough advanced thinking input. As "Johhny Five" once said, "input, input, need more input!"



Hugs

Danielle Marie

[Lorna]

Not just the memory of being with my mom in the restroom, but how it felt. It was a great memory and I am sure I will think about that often now.

I remeber having to follow my mother into the ladies room when I was 5 or 6 as she still would not let me go anywhere alone in public.

At the time I of course hated having to walk into a ladies room but looking back I have to say that it was indeed a nice memory.

[Kathy]

As someone who has always enjoyed things scientific but never had much opportunity to dive into the deep theoretical pool, I must say that you all have taken a quantum leap right over the top of my head.

But I must say that I have found this thread to be very educational and enlightening as well as more than a little entertaining and even downright fun.

To all who have contributed, I say bravo!

[SophieLawson]

I remeber having to follow my mother into the ladies room when I was 5 or 6 ............ looking back I have to say that it was indeed a nice memory.

This reminds me of one of my first memories, when I was at school about 6 or so I remember I said I needed to go to the toilet so I left class and the corridors were all empty.

I then got the urge to go in the girls toilets and I looked down the corridors again and then just went and sat in the girls toilets and I can still amazingly remember the feeling. I cant describe it but it was just really nice, and then I went back to class as normal

Sophie xx

[Danielle La Belle]

While we would like to think that at age 4, 5, 6, we were aware of our penchant for things of the feamle persuasion I have found that we are just curious at this age.

My grand-son, age 4 at the time, asked if he could wear a super hero outfit that we made for his sister. Anything that she claimed at my home, he wanted to play with when it was his turn to come over and play with me without her being present.

The outfit consisted of a white blouse, blue skirt, and a blonde wig. The character represented was a Japaneese character that was popular with girls, "Sailor Moon."

He wore it for about 5 minutes, then said it was too hot. Neither I nor my spouse said anything about it. We made no comment about it being right or wrong. No funny faces, or sounds.

He is now going on 6 in November 2004, and he acts just like any other boy his age. This was just an experiment in control for him. He could control and use any of his sister's stuff without asking her. We changed that by telling him now he and she must ask first before using the other's personal items.

We have passed through this "Taboo" without any fanfare thanks to my penchant to be whom I feel that I am, without remorse or regret. I think this made a difference in my spouse's reaction and handling of this matter.

I never told his mother and father as they would not understand at their tender age of 30 years currently. Some things need to be left to themselves.



Hugs

Danielle Marie

[SophieLawson]

While we would like to think that at age 4, 5, 6, we were aware of our penchant for things of the feamle persuasion I have found that we are just curious at this age.

I dunno you know, I'm sure there is something even at that early age that makes some boys more femine then others. Like my sister still makes fun of me, in a nice way, for playing with her my little ponies and barbies when we were young.

I used to put my he-man, thundercats and spiderman figures on the my little ponies etc Also, we used to go round my dads best mate and he had a son and daughter pretty much the same age as me and my sister.

Whenever we went round there house my sister would go with the girl and I would go play with lil cars with the boy, but within 10 mins I would be in the girls room playing with the barbies lol I'd have action man figures in the barbie cars etc

Sophie xx

[Danielle La Belle]

Well Sophie, I guess that is my point. You played universally with what was available. The fact that it was designated a "barbie car" did not occur to you. It was just a good place for the "he-man" figures.

I used to have several girls come over to my home when I was 7, 8 ,9,10, 11, 12, and we would swing on the swing set in the backyard and sing songs together. We were going to be a "sensation" someday. Ah, youth and all that goes with it! I enjoyed their company and preferred them over boys perhaps for several different reasons. Good, bad or indifferent, I envied them for their smart looking dresses and how one or two were starting to fill them out slightly. I remember this well and thinking what a really wonderful change was taking place. They were not straight up and down anymore and I wondered if I too would make such a change.

I am not saying that a person cannot act like a member of the opposite sex, just that at that age, we are not very defined and can go either way depending on external factors such as parenting, friends and commnuity.

Placing no position on my grandson's behavior, just permitting him to decided in his own way what was comfortable. In this case, the additional clothing on top of his "boy" clothing, made him too hot as he pointed out and that was enough of an experiment for him. He never asked to wear just the "outfit" by itself. He was satisfied in just knowing that he got to use his sisters "stuff."

When I was 21, I could not actually remember what things were really like when I was 6. Oh yes, I have photos to help remind me, but the actual thoughts, they were gone. A few incidents that caused a great upheaval were still in my memory bank but day to day stuff, it is lost forever.

Now, age 55, I cannot tell you what I had for lunch last Wednesday, ......

Oh well, I guess we just continue in a forward motion until one day, we malfunction and cease to exist.



Hugs

Danielle Marie

[SophieLawson]

Danielle, I'm learning new things everyday lol Maybe it was cos the car was pink that I liked it so much lmao

I just always had it in my head that we are born more femine, but maybe it is external factors. Maybe if my sister had never dressed me up when I was lil I would never have got the urge, or maybe I would still somehow have ended up in a dress lol

Sophie xx

[Danielle La Belle]

Ah Sophie:

This is just one piece of a 1000 piece jigsaw puzzle that varies with each person to some degree Some factors are specific, can be measured and are repeatable. Others, well they are formed on-the-fly in the first few nanoseconds of conception.

I really think this is what makes our world so exciting and vibrant. And we never get to vote on any of those defining factors. They are just handed to us carte blanche. We wrestle with them, we deny them, we accept them, we forget them, we remember them, but for all that can be said, we are just what we are, no more or less than anyone else.

I really like myself. It has taken a lifetime to come to that happy conclusion. But, I do not forget that others around me are not so "excited or accepting" of this "difference" in presentation. I always respect that and do not force my concepts on another.

So, no matter where you are on your "life string," at the basic beginning, somewhere in the middle, or ending, there is always something new to learn and decide on where to store this information.

Some things are meaningful, while others are quickly stored in the "circular basket." Discarded as we do not have sufficient information to make them important enough to keep.

Hugs

Danielle Marie