Kids? meet Elizabeth
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Elizabeth
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Kids? meet Elizabeth
Hi girls,
Tonight was a landmark night, in fact just moments ago my daughter who is 21, and my son who is 17 both met Elizabeth tonight. I put on all my makeup, and a new top that I bought, that I have been dying to wear.
I came out of my bedroom and I could see my daughter's back, from down the hallway and across the livingroom to the far side where my wife's computer is located. I moved behind her very stealthily and put my hands over her eyes.
She pulled away agrily because she was trying to chat and said "stop it dad". As she turned to see my face she just smiled and said "you look cute" I told her I was very embarassed and that no one had ever seen me before and I was feeling very self concious.
Moments later my 17 year old son came out of his bedroom got himself a glass of icewater, then started talking to me about the CD I was listening to. This conversation went on for over 20 minutes when I finally asked him to tell me if this was bad for him.
He shrugged his shoulders and said "it really don't matter to me, if it makes you happy? go for it" Then I said "so you are ok with this?" and he said "dad, about 90% of my friends wear eye makeup everyday, it is just not that unusual for me to see guys in makeup"
From our previous discussions I knew that he was into the "Hard Core" rock music and identifies with the values of people who also like that music. Apparently differnt branches of this music genre identify with differnt things. My son does what is called "Hard Core Dancing", which is a bunch of good looking guys who are in really good physical condtion simulating aggressive fighting action, not at each other, but indiviually as an art form as it applies to the music. Anyway there is a branch that most of his friends belong to where part of the identification of supporting a certain music genre is wearing eye makeup.
So he is not shocked by it any more. And my daughter is the same. Except that for reasons that would not be that hard to guess, my daughter likes effeminate men, and says she is bisexual. And she has several crossdressing friends, so it is really no big deal to her.
Anway, here I am typing this, my daughter at my wife's computer lost in about 10 conversations. My son went back to his room, I am listening to some of my favorite mp3's, in my livingroom as Elizabeth, and everything is ok.
OK, I lied
I feel
TERRIFFIC!!!!!!
It was another happy day. There are starting to be more happy days than unhappy days. I feel the train leaving the station and I got a ticket to anywhere.
Love to all,
Elizabeth
Tonight was a landmark night, in fact just moments ago my daughter who is 21, and my son who is 17 both met Elizabeth tonight. I put on all my makeup, and a new top that I bought, that I have been dying to wear.
I came out of my bedroom and I could see my daughter's back, from down the hallway and across the livingroom to the far side where my wife's computer is located. I moved behind her very stealthily and put my hands over her eyes.
She pulled away agrily because she was trying to chat and said "stop it dad". As she turned to see my face she just smiled and said "you look cute" I told her I was very embarassed and that no one had ever seen me before and I was feeling very self concious.
Moments later my 17 year old son came out of his bedroom got himself a glass of icewater, then started talking to me about the CD I was listening to. This conversation went on for over 20 minutes when I finally asked him to tell me if this was bad for him.
He shrugged his shoulders and said "it really don't matter to me, if it makes you happy? go for it" Then I said "so you are ok with this?" and he said "dad, about 90% of my friends wear eye makeup everyday, it is just not that unusual for me to see guys in makeup"
From our previous discussions I knew that he was into the "Hard Core" rock music and identifies with the values of people who also like that music. Apparently differnt branches of this music genre identify with differnt things. My son does what is called "Hard Core Dancing", which is a bunch of good looking guys who are in really good physical condtion simulating aggressive fighting action, not at each other, but indiviually as an art form as it applies to the music. Anyway there is a branch that most of his friends belong to where part of the identification of supporting a certain music genre is wearing eye makeup.
So he is not shocked by it any more. And my daughter is the same. Except that for reasons that would not be that hard to guess, my daughter likes effeminate men, and says she is bisexual. And she has several crossdressing friends, so it is really no big deal to her.
Anway, here I am typing this, my daughter at my wife's computer lost in about 10 conversations. My son went back to his room, I am listening to some of my favorite mp3's, in my livingroom as Elizabeth, and everything is ok.
OK, I lied
I feel
TERRIFFIC!!!!!!
It was another happy day. There are starting to be more happy days than unhappy days. I feel the train leaving the station and I got a ticket to anywhere.
Love to all,
Elizabeth
Last edited by Elizabeth on Fri Jul 23, 2004 6:38 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Hi girls,
Thanks, it really was a great night, and I almost chickened out, but decided, what the heck. What is the worst that can happen? Are they gonna take my birthday away?
Again, thanks girls, it is all of you and the magic of this place that has mede me finally feel like it is ok to be me, without feeling ashamed. I really do love all of you.
Love
Elizabeth
Thanks, it really was a great night, and I almost chickened out, but decided, what the heck. What is the worst that can happen? Are they gonna take my birthday away?
Again, thanks girls, it is all of you and the magic of this place that has mede me finally feel like it is ok to be me, without feeling ashamed. I really do love all of you.
Love
Elizabeth
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Elizabeth, honey, after the things that you have been through!! I am so proud of you, I am crying!!! See, if you raise your children the right way and you know the old saying "the acorn doesn't fall far from the tree." If there is an oak tree on this forum it is you, sweetheart!
I am soooo happy for you,
Love,
Deborah
I am soooo happy for you,
Love,
Deborah
First star to the right, then straight on 'till mornin!
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Good To Hear!!
Hello Elizabeth,
I am glad to hear that things are great with your kids. I just wanted to mention that some of the things kids are into these days include acceptance of all lifestyles. My daughter who is 26 is into the tattos and peircings and wild hair. She has photos of me as her dad and Jenn on her fridge and all her friends know about me. There was a time her lifstyle was uncomfortable for me but in accepting it discovered she could accept mine. Your kids are your biggest supporters, you will find there is nothing you can't discuss with them.
Jenn
I am glad to hear that things are great with your kids. I just wanted to mention that some of the things kids are into these days include acceptance of all lifestyles. My daughter who is 26 is into the tattos and peircings and wild hair. She has photos of me as her dad and Jenn on her fridge and all her friends know about me. There was a time her lifstyle was uncomfortable for me but in accepting it discovered she could accept mine. Your kids are your biggest supporters, you will find there is nothing you can't discuss with them.
Jenn
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Hi girls,
Thanks again to everyone. Nothing like being accepted as you are, by the people you love the most.
When I first came here I was full of shame and self loathing, and could not imagine my kids seeing me as Elizabeth. I wish I could say this is some great credit to me, but the truth is, it is all of you funneling your strength through me. At least that is how it feels to me.
To have this place where I can come anytime, day or night, and see I am not alone, to be validated as a human being, has made it so I don't have to feel alone.
It has been glorious, frightening, sad, happy, and every other range of emotion, but I have not felt alone. For the first time in my life, I don't feel alone.
I know I must seem like a "drama queen" to many of you, thankyou for letting me. But in my defense I have not had anyone to share this with, until now, and I really feel comfortable telling all of you. And to say it has been theraputic would be a dramitic understatement.
But the most important thing I have learned here, is to love myself, as I love others. And now that I am loving myself, it intensifies my love for everyone else, including all of you.
I do love all of you,
Elizabeth
Thanks again to everyone. Nothing like being accepted as you are, by the people you love the most.
When I first came here I was full of shame and self loathing, and could not imagine my kids seeing me as Elizabeth. I wish I could say this is some great credit to me, but the truth is, it is all of you funneling your strength through me. At least that is how it feels to me.
To have this place where I can come anytime, day or night, and see I am not alone, to be validated as a human being, has made it so I don't have to feel alone.
It has been glorious, frightening, sad, happy, and every other range of emotion, but I have not felt alone. For the first time in my life, I don't feel alone.
I know I must seem like a "drama queen" to many of you, thankyou for letting me. But in my defense I have not had anyone to share this with, until now, and I really feel comfortable telling all of you. And to say it has been theraputic would be a dramitic understatement.
But the most important thing I have learned here, is to love myself, as I love others. And now that I am loving myself, it intensifies my love for everyone else, including all of you.
I do love all of you,
Elizabeth