Are we girls?

[Virginia]

Wow Lorna,
Bet that comment is burned into your brain forever!!! I think I would have just fainted right there on the spot!!
CJ: and if Jassmine agrees it's gotta be right - just be true to yourself!!
In general I too "see" all my sisters here as women and when I respond I am responding as a woman to women. but............ I do have a minor problem! I will have to really prime myself for what I assume will be male voices when I attend the SBS social here this week-end. I just have not been "exposed" to other CD'ers in person, at least that I am aware of and I don't care who you are or how you feel about yourself and your sisters, the first experience with a group of our sisters has got to, how shall I say it??....uh play on your mind, at least until you get comfortable that they are our sisters and have the same desires, goals, trials and tribulations as we do.
This is great for me in that it will be somewhat of a "practice game" before the big game in Atlanta!!!
Love,
Deborah

[SophieLawson]

Actually yeah, the thought of a mans voice is kinda strange isnt it lol

Ohh well, you can't have everything lol I've been doing a girlie voice in my head, like really softy speaking like, so maybe you could all just whisper to each other at the SBS thing

Sophie xx

[CJ]

Hi all,

Here's a tip from one who's admittedly never really been exposed to other CDs either (anyway, this is how I would do it): look into their eyes and let them look into yours. This is where we live; this is where we see the world that each person is, and can be. And then, later, gawk over the fabulous outfits!

Have fun, girl! We'll expect a full report by next Monday at 9:00 am sharp!

Love,
CJ

[Amelie-Laveau]

First I want to say I wish I could put my thoughts into words like the girls here. You are right, while we may not be girls in the sense that society dictates, we are sisters bonded together. The voice doesn't matter, Wait a minute it does matter! When I used to go clubbing, there would be some nights that I would be alone. Then this girl comes up to me to talk, she says how are you, sounding just like a man, it is a sister CD. She was a girl when she approached me, but a sister when she talked to me. She never was a man to me, even with the voice. There is a bond between CDs, you do not notice the voice or at least it is not a factor. She is a woman, she is your sister.

Love Amelie

[Virginia]

Thanks Amelie,
I will carry your thoughts with me - well put, yes we do have a common bond and we are all sisters at heart.
Love ya,
Deborah

[Elizabeth]

Hi girls,

I have to agree with Amelie. I have only met one crossdresser, and it was a fellow sister from this forum. Her inner beauty came right out. There is a special something that we share. And even though she has a boys shirt over her girls shirt, and had a mans voice, she was still a she to me. It's hard to explain, but it was thrilling just meeting someone like me. And talking to her, was just like talking to her here.

I think CJ is on to something about us being human beings first. But It was not a psychological barrier that we were actually men, at least not to me. It is my belief that this is a true phenomina, although I have nothing to support that other than my one experience.

I beleive that us crossdressers are deeply sensitive men, and this sensitivity trancends asthestics to the point that it is not important to many of us whether or not we could actuallly pass as a woman, or if a fellow sister can.

You need look no farther than my avater, I am not a very convincing looking woman, but I think my mind is that of a woman. I think that makes it easier to overlook that fact that I may not really look or sound like a woman.

But that is just one girl's opinion.

Love always,
Elizabeth

[Amelie-Laveau]

You girls are really something special, I didn't think anyone read my posts. The feeling I have now is the same when I met that girl in the club. Hearing her voice gave me such a feeling of joy. We talked about the usual stuff, Make-up, clothes, where we hang out, the little chit chat, but it was exciting to talk to her. It's the same here we talk the chit-chat. I've been listening to the same conversation for years now, over and over, and it never gets boring. Thanks girls you're a wonderful gang of girls a sister could have.

Love All-Amelie


Sometimes to be different is to be alone, but not here with my sisters.

[Jassmine(SO)]

Howdy Gang

Hi all,

Here's a tip from one who's admittedly never really been exposed to other CDs either (anyway, this is how I would do it): look into their eyes and let them look into yours. This is where we live; this is where we see the world that each person is, and can be. !

Hey CJ, GREAT suggestion!! Our eyes are indeed the windows to our
souls.

And then, later, gawk over the fabulous outfits!

Have fun, girl! We'll expect a full report by next Monday at 9:00 am sharp!

And that's an order

Have yourself a ball and raise a little heck for me ##oo##

*Hugs & Love*

[Barbara]

[quote]So? Are we girls, or are we just kidding ourselves? [/quote]

I'm not, and I'm not.


[quote]She simply looked at me with a shocked expression and said, "What do you mean real ladies first? As far as I'm concerned, you're every bit of a woman as I am." [/quote]

Cool! I get a little worried, though, when a GG says I'm more of a woman than she is -- it's happened a few times, amd I don;t understand it.

[Amelie-Laveau]

Elizebeth!!! Don't go saying that, you are a beautiful woman. You don't have to convince anyone it's for yourself and only yourself, I said in another forum: For those who understand you no explanation is necessary, For those who don't none is possible-? If you could see the GG's in my neighborhood George Bush could pass, the GG's here are brutes.


Love Amelie

[ChristineRenee]

Certainly the "Christine" part of me is a girl. Most of me is male though...certainly on the outside. When I interact in this forum and others like it I certainly feel female and like I am interacting with other females, though I am cognizant that I am actually speaking with genetic males. However, I enjoy presenting my femme self to all of you and enjoy hearing from your femme side as well. After all, isn't this what we are all about and here for to begin with?


xoxoxoxo,

Christine

[Celia]

This is an pretty good question, Elizabeth--it's had me going round and round since yesterday afternoon when I first read it.

Was I ever really a boy? Have I ever really been a man? So much of boyhood and manhood is simply a role that we males play, one that society chose for us and drilled into us so thoroughly that it can be quite difficult for us to distinguish second-nature from what we really are.

It's a little like language. I wasn't born with a predisposition towards English, but I have to admit that speaking anything else feels pretty strange (to say nothing of difficult). If I'd been born left-handed and society said "You will use your right hand.", I would probably use it and feel appropriate in doing so but then wonder why life was such a bewildering strain. I'm not a square peg; I'm not a round peg. Society can still try to hammer me into the square or the round hole, but I don't suppose I have to sit still while it takes aim.

I was never really a boy; I'm not really a man. These are just roles I've played and continue to play--subconsciously, much of the time. The role of girl or woman I play more occasionally and more deliberately, but neither am I really either of those. I guess I'm just refusing to be typecast.

Yours,
Celia

[CJ]

Hi all,

Celia,

You wrote: Society can still try to hammer me into the square or the round hole, but I don't suppose I have to sit still while it takes aim.

Very well put, as usual! I wish I had your talent for striking imagery (so to speak ).

Love,
CJ

[Celia]

Thanks, CJ.

-Celia

[CJ]

CJ