When I was about 10 I was at the home of another boy I knew. There were several other boys and a couple of girls there but his parents were not home. We were all the same age more or less. He asked us if we could keep a secret. After we all swore secrecy he proceeded to tell us he would let us try on his mothers clothes.
I had been doing this myself secretly for a couple of years by then. I did not say anything about the fact that this was not a new experience but joined in as we took turns trying on bras, slips and panties.
We did this a couple more times and then somehow all got embarrassed about it. We didn't do it again and also didn't talk about it very much. I never told anyone about my own crossdressing and instead let the other kids think this was the only time I did this.
Now here is the interesting part. There were 5 boys and 2 girls there. And all were incredibly enthusiastic about this. I don't really know what was going on with the girls but the boys were all very excited and couldn't seem to get enough of trying these things on. Not a one of us objected to this at all.
Here were 5 semi randomly selected 10 year old boys all reacting the same way. Makes you think, huh?
Who knows perhaps they are all here now.
Anyone else have similar experiences?
Andrea
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Hi Andrea--
That's quite an experience you went through. I don't know how I would have reacted to that, at ten. I have begun to think that a lot of boys do try on their sister's or mother's clothes at least once. Young boys are flooded with male hormones at 12 or 13, and often have no way to have any meaningful contact with real girls at that age. Yet they're going nuts
trying to deal with constant sexual feelings.
I remember all this really well, how my friends and I could talk about little else but girls and sports--the two things that were important at that time.
I've said in other posts that my teen CDing was very hidden, but so was almost everything else to do with sexuality, when I was growing up. I realize that CDing is about more than just sexuality when we get older, but as teens, I think it's MOSTLY about sexuality. I don't think I'm overgeneralizing here. Even the TS women I know went through these same experiences, as teens.
We boys talked about sex constantly, but we carefully avoided talking about how WE dealt with it. We only talked about what we'd like to be doing, not what we actually did. I did have one friend that I could talk to about more troubling things, but even him I didn't tell about CDing. It wasn't even a temptation to do that, as far as I can remember.
I stopped CDing after I left home--it was too inconvenient, to have any clothes around a college dorm with three roommates. So I'm beginning to think that lots of boys have some experience like the one you mentioned, but they don't get "hooked" on it.
That's quite an experience you went through. I don't know how I would have reacted to that, at ten. I have begun to think that a lot of boys do try on their sister's or mother's clothes at least once. Young boys are flooded with male hormones at 12 or 13, and often have no way to have any meaningful contact with real girls at that age. Yet they're going nuts
trying to deal with constant sexual feelings.
I remember all this really well, how my friends and I could talk about little else but girls and sports--the two things that were important at that time.
I've said in other posts that my teen CDing was very hidden, but so was almost everything else to do with sexuality, when I was growing up. I realize that CDing is about more than just sexuality when we get older, but as teens, I think it's MOSTLY about sexuality. I don't think I'm overgeneralizing here. Even the TS women I know went through these same experiences, as teens.
We boys talked about sex constantly, but we carefully avoided talking about how WE dealt with it. We only talked about what we'd like to be doing, not what we actually did. I did have one friend that I could talk to about more troubling things, but even him I didn't tell about CDing. It wasn't even a temptation to do that, as far as I can remember.
I stopped CDing after I left home--it was too inconvenient, to have any clothes around a college dorm with three roommates. So I'm beginning to think that lots of boys have some experience like the one you mentioned, but they don't get "hooked" on it.
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Andrea,
I never cross-dressed with anyone else, nor even let anyone know I did so with a very few exceptions (numbering 10 in my whole life, outside of this forum). So obviously, I couldn't have had a club like you describe. However, there were two friends who confided to me that they cross-dressed, one of whom was my best friend. Unfortunately, he only revealed that to me a few days before he moved to Florida (I guess he thought he was safe revealing his secret since he'd probably never see me again). Also unfortunately, I didn't reveal my CDing to him, something I'd change if I could do it over. And I really regret losing track of him. Oh well.
The existence of two friends on the same street as me who CD'ed tells me one of three things-- 1) it is far more common than generally acknowledged, or 2) statistics being what they are, I happened to live in a statisically unusually high area for CD'ing and it is just by chance (remember that if you flip a coin 49 times and it comes up heads each time, the odds of it being heads on the 50th flip are still 50/50-- such is the nature of statistics-- they work for large numbers but not for specific cases), or 3) we shared a trigger for this propensity based in our envronment. The latter thought has, for years, been my favored hypothesis for the following reason: we all had the same 2nd grade teacher who punished boys by making them wear scarves. Maybe they reacted the same way I did. It would be interesting to track the alumni of that teacher to see how many people responded as I did.
Grace
I never cross-dressed with anyone else, nor even let anyone know I did so with a very few exceptions (numbering 10 in my whole life, outside of this forum). So obviously, I couldn't have had a club like you describe. However, there were two friends who confided to me that they cross-dressed, one of whom was my best friend. Unfortunately, he only revealed that to me a few days before he moved to Florida (I guess he thought he was safe revealing his secret since he'd probably never see me again). Also unfortunately, I didn't reveal my CDing to him, something I'd change if I could do it over. And I really regret losing track of him. Oh well.
The existence of two friends on the same street as me who CD'ed tells me one of three things-- 1) it is far more common than generally acknowledged, or 2) statistics being what they are, I happened to live in a statisically unusually high area for CD'ing and it is just by chance (remember that if you flip a coin 49 times and it comes up heads each time, the odds of it being heads on the 50th flip are still 50/50-- such is the nature of statistics-- they work for large numbers but not for specific cases), or 3) we shared a trigger for this propensity based in our envronment. The latter thought has, for years, been my favored hypothesis for the following reason: we all had the same 2nd grade teacher who punished boys by making them wear scarves. Maybe they reacted the same way I did. It would be interesting to track the alumni of that teacher to see how many people responded as I did.
Grace
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Grace,
You raise an interesting juxtaposition. Are we born this way or does some event in early childhood convert us. Yet, why does this and I will use my description = Gift. seem to manifest itself so strongly as we get older. For me personally, I have gone back in my mind as best I can recall and I can find no early childhood instances other than a 5 or 6 year old's fasination with watching his grandmother dress. My first real introduction was in high school but only briefly but is came out full bore in the past three years or so. If we are converted by some event that would lead me to believe that we are born with the gift and something triggers it. Are all males blessed with this gift???? Do some simply repress it or supress it their entire lives or they just never had it to begin with. Questions??? Maybe some day answers will be available, but for now - Keep the Faith!!!!
Virginia
You raise an interesting juxtaposition. Are we born this way or does some event in early childhood convert us. Yet, why does this and I will use my description = Gift. seem to manifest itself so strongly as we get older. For me personally, I have gone back in my mind as best I can recall and I can find no early childhood instances other than a 5 or 6 year old's fasination with watching his grandmother dress. My first real introduction was in high school but only briefly but is came out full bore in the past three years or so. If we are converted by some event that would lead me to believe that we are born with the gift and something triggers it. Are all males blessed with this gift???? Do some simply repress it or supress it their entire lives or they just never had it to begin with. Questions??? Maybe some day answers will be available, but for now - Keep the Faith!!!!
Virginia
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Beauty we did it for a couple of times and then stopped without saying anything about it. Although we hung out together for a number of years and I still have occassional contact with one of the other boys we never spoke of it again. A couple of times one boy did bring it up but there was a wall of silence followed by a quick subject change.
When I began dressing again I thought of this. I have also noticed that when the kids friends were over and the laundry was out (it often got sorted in the kitchen) the boys from about age 6 to 11 would react quite strongly to the sight of bras, panties and other lingerie even though it was just lying there in a pile of laundry.
Scantily clad women are a big deal in our society. It isn't much of a leap to go from the woman to the clothes in terms of stimulus to males. And once that is done, a very easy and to be expected step, the next move is to touch the clothes, just as you would touch the woman. And if you are going to touch them what better way than to try them on.
So this process probably leads to a lot of young boys trying something on once. Then we get to the stigma attached to a boy being girlish. So many of us stop because even in secret we are embarrassed. Others are overwhelmed by the force of the secret and get emotionally stuck. Still others don't get caught up in all the sanctions and just think it is fun once in a while. I have seen this in some of my oldest childs friends and boy was that a surprise-CDing as an occasional fun thing with no need to keep it a secret.
To tell the truth if it weren't for all the societal sanctions I wonder if most heterosexual men wouldn't CD from time to time. And this is not even addressing the issue of wearing your friends clothes. Examples being wearing my wifes sweatshirts and sweatpants or teeshirts, articles of womens clothing that I can wear yet not crossdress.
Andrea
When I began dressing again I thought of this. I have also noticed that when the kids friends were over and the laundry was out (it often got sorted in the kitchen) the boys from about age 6 to 11 would react quite strongly to the sight of bras, panties and other lingerie even though it was just lying there in a pile of laundry.
Scantily clad women are a big deal in our society. It isn't much of a leap to go from the woman to the clothes in terms of stimulus to males. And once that is done, a very easy and to be expected step, the next move is to touch the clothes, just as you would touch the woman. And if you are going to touch them what better way than to try them on.
So this process probably leads to a lot of young boys trying something on once. Then we get to the stigma attached to a boy being girlish. So many of us stop because even in secret we are embarrassed. Others are overwhelmed by the force of the secret and get emotionally stuck. Still others don't get caught up in all the sanctions and just think it is fun once in a while. I have seen this in some of my oldest childs friends and boy was that a surprise-CDing as an occasional fun thing with no need to keep it a secret.
To tell the truth if it weren't for all the societal sanctions I wonder if most heterosexual men wouldn't CD from time to time. And this is not even addressing the issue of wearing your friends clothes. Examples being wearing my wifes sweatshirts and sweatpants or teeshirts, articles of womens clothing that I can wear yet not crossdress.
Andrea
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