Another question for CDers.

Loretta Ann · Post by **Loretta Ann** » Sun Sep 18, 2005 8:07 pm

Thanks for your honesty Jadeanne. It is appreciated.

Does anyone need the barf bucket?

Valerie · Post by **Valerie** » Sun Sep 18, 2005 9:12 pm

Hi Darlene. As for being "perfect". if anybody ever told me they were,I would know they were lying. The way I see it is that nobody is "perfect". Everybody can always learn something from another.

And to you Beauty, I

what you were saying. If they can't take it,so be it. Everybody should just be open and honest here. We are all alike in a certain way,

.

Beauty · Post by **Beauty** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 4:35 am

Hi Valerie,

Thank you very much for saying that.

I'm really oversensitive (and I'm not on HRT yet, so it's not me taking estrogen that's causing it) I've always been oversensitive my whole life and I display it on the forum and in my daily life all the time. So this thread has been kind of tough because of mocking what I said or taking what I've said out of context to make a funny. Please no one needs to apologize. I believe no one here would intentionally hurt my feelings and be sly about it. It's just a me thing. I'll get over it.

I guess I should be giggling along with everyone because from what I'm getting no one is laughing at me, but it sure feels like it to this oversensitive mind.

So? Why the blabber about it? Because a post like yours made me feel good about me and what I said, so thank you for being so kind. What I typed surely flowed from my mind to my fingers really well, but hitting submit took quite a few minutes. It wasn't easy to submit my thoughts, but how could I ask others to be open if I wasn't going to?

Your post was a blessing, a kiss on the cheek, and/or one of the most friendliest hugs I could ever want right now. So thank you Valerie. Mind if I return the favor?

Beauty

Loretta Ann · Post by **Loretta Ann** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 9:55 am

Hi Valerie,

Thanks for the support.

Beauty,

This is not an apology, and You may not need to hear this. But you are right no one is laughing at you here, the way I see it.

It does appear that the cat has got a few tongues though, which is something I don't think I have seen here before, in quite the same way.

Paulie · Post by **Paulie** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 11:31 am

Ok...
I'm not completely sure I'm interpreting your question correctly, but I'll give it a shot anyway!

For me personally, I do get excited and enjoy the sexual release when fully dressed, but that doesn't have to happen everytime. I love the feeling of the clothes, and the sexy and/or feminine look the most. And when just underdressing in panties, or wearing womens jeans or pants... I feel good, but don't get sexually excited.

Which brings up the GG side of the question....
I can only state what I think or have observed, and knowing how my wife has said she feels. Most women will say they like to buy clothes and shoes they see as looking good on them, hence they feel good... confident... sexy in them. Sexy clothes can make you feel confident, but I believe there has to be another ingredient in order for a woman to be aroused in them.

Would there come a day that I would no longer be sexually aroused when fully dressed? Possibly.... but, I think that like most anything you do become desensitized over time. Until then... I intend to enjoy all the feelings of being fully dressed in soft, silky feminine items!
Paulie

Loretta Ann · Post by **Loretta Ann** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 3:50 pm

Good response Paulie,

I think as one becomes older age also contributes to lessening the sexual part. So do enjoy it while you can it is part of who you are.

Marlena Dahlstrom · Post by **Marlena Dahlstrom** » Fri Sep 23, 2005 1:11 am

For me, dressing often was sexual when I was younger. Most of the time these days it's not -- although there's definitely some times when I dress specifically to feel sexy and get off.

Why the change? To be honest, I'm not really sure. Maybe it's age (I'm 41), maybe I've changed, maybe that I've accepted my dressing.

I did go through a "no sex please, we're transgendered" phase, but now I'm willing to accept that while it's not the main reason I dress, it can be a reason.

Darla

Beauty · Post by **Beauty** » Fri Sep 23, 2005 5:19 am

Hallelujah!

Lorretta you've done it! The skies have parted and people are openly admitting that they do get sexual pleasure and even arousal when they dress (even if it's occasionally). I was wondering if people would ever admit this here. I feel like the fever of denial for the forum just broke.

To all of you who have opened up and shared this with our members and lurkers. I can't tell you how proud I am of all of you.

Before I go away I just want to say I know that these feelings of sexiness or arousal are not an all of the time thing for most of you, but even if it was there's nothing to be ashamed about. You are all so wonderful for living your lives and being the best you can be and learning to accept something that's not normal to society, but very normal to us.

I love you so much for who you are!!!

I, nor do most people care that you get aroused or feel sexy when you don clothing. You shouldn't fight being you, especially when you're not harming anyone else.

I'm so happy!!!! I'm so proud!!!!

"You are beautiful in every single way" - Christina Aguilera

Gracie

Shenica · Post by **Shenica** » Fri Sep 23, 2005 5:48 pm

Thank you for your acceptance of me and my way of being.

It means a lot to me. I have not had the time to respond to the individual posts

shenica

Loretta Ann · Post by **Loretta Ann** » Fri Sep 23, 2005 6:58 pm

My pleasure Shenica,

No no Beauty,

We did it you helped.

As well as those who opened up here.

I wonder if we don't still have some who are hiding?

But you are right it is definitely a refreshing start.

Virginia · Post by **Virginia** » Fri Sep 23, 2005 10:15 pm

I'm a week late getting in on this but I have a good excuse. Anyway, I have to put my two cents worth in and hope no one gets to "excited" if I unconsciously resort to the third person perspective. Example, I (Virginia) hosted the meeting of our support group here at my home. As I was getting ready, "dressed." I think back and my major concern was to look as nice as I could. I had to use the mirror to apply all the necessary "war paint", etc if you will! When I looked in the mirror I saw a beautiful woman, was she/ I, turned on by what I saw, NO! I had too many other things on my mind, but mainly to look nice and be a good hostess and hopefully make several total strangers, crossdressing strangers, feel totally comfortable and at home not only with me but the other girls that would be there - pressure? yes, overwhelm sexual desire, yes in this case the desire to please overcame any sexual aspects. That to me brought out the feminine side of me. Clothes did not turn me on at that time as my goal was not to turn myself on!
OTOH, there have been a lot of times when I dress, look in the mirror and the conflict arises, who is actually looking back at me? the basic "guy in a dress" or a pretty girl who wants to be considered desireable, sexy and (how do I say this?) ?available? to be made love to? Yes, most of the time, Virginia turns me on (was that third person?) she drives me nuts and yes she gets off and loves every minute of it!!!!! Actually the girl is great in bed!!! (was that third person again?)
We are who we are and as I have said and will continue to say, I may not understand it, but I am Virginia, she is me and we love each other and down the garden path we go hand in hand!
Love,
Virginia

Valerie · Post by **Valerie** » Sat Sep 24, 2005 11:45 pm

Yes Beauty you can give me a big hug

if you want,I don't mind. Good you got some of us to open up like they have. I have always believed this site was where we can come and be with others like us and have some one to talk to/understand us. Yes I have had sexual releases while dressed and enjoyed it immensly,

. But as I have gotten older, it has deminished and I find that I enjoy the feeling of the soft clothes to be just as enjoyable.

Loretta,I think you started something here and it looks like some of the girls are letting their hair down,so to speak,

.

Love to all,

Michelle · Post by **Michelle** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 3:18 am

Hi, Loretta,

As I'm not a woman, I can't answer definitively on your question. However, my wife assures me that she definitely does not get directly aroused by wearing female (read 'sexy')clothing. However, she does feel relaxed and sometimes sexy in the right clothing.

She gets the 'buzz' from making me feel attracted to her, and that, in turn , turns her on.

I can answer the man's part,(at least in my own case). I definitely get turned on by the look and feel of pretty femme clothes. Added to that, I often fantasize at the same time, and this really gets me going.

I might ad that I'm 59 years old, have been dressing since I was about 12, and have always gotten a sexual thrill directly from dressing. Admittedly, now, it takes a bit longer for me to 'finish', but I still do it primarily for that reason.

I feel, at least in my case, that men's, 'ahem', 'plumbing', has something to do with it, hanging way out there ready to be stimulated by the touch of silky or restrictive (or both) garments, whereas women's is much more neatly tucked away from external stimulation.

I'm a very visually stimulated person, and another main turn on is the sight of myself looking like a pretty or sexy woman. Men seem to be , on the whole), quite visually oriented .You don't see women practically tripping over because their heads are turned ,ogling a passing man. Women, in my experience, don't seem to be so visually excited (mind you, I could be wrong).

Anyhow, I really don't know how this fits into the total equation, but that's my experience.

Hugs, Michelle

Ellie · Post by **Ellie** » Sun Oct 16, 2005 12:58 pm

Hello, Ellie here, .Every thing I buy will eventually be on my person ,during which it's purpose is to create inner visions that I find pleasureable,with /or with out the Big O being involved. Every thing! Do dangling earrings count? They do for me! I have saftey pinned my panties to my bra for a snugger fit. That in itself didn't raise the flag, but I needed extra body awareness for whatever reason. We all know that you can't wear any thing between your ears,Big O headquarters. Every thing not every time. .Peace in joy, Ellie

Georgia(SO) · Post by **Georgia(SO)** » Tue Oct 18, 2005 4:29 am

OK. So I'm really late jumping into this thread, but as a gg, I am fascinated by the differences between male turn-ons and female turn-ons, even when the males are in girl clothes.

To answer the first question - do girl clothes turn girls on? Hmmm. That's harder to answer than some might think. For myself, the clothes themselves don't turn me on. I mean, the clothes aren't the focus of any friskiness and I don't know of any woman who would find herself needing to take care of herself just because she's dressed up in something frilly. OTOH, dressing up in something frilly isn't nearly the big deal for us as it is for ya'll because we can do it any time we want...

However, if I get all gussied up in really sexy clothes, I will feel all sorts of feelings that I don't get in jeans and a T-shirt. I'm trying to figure out here if I can identify these feelings even to myself, much less in terms that are acceptable here. Dressed to kill, I feel a powerfulness that is directly related to my sexuality, and I will be more aware of my sexual nature. Hmmm. Still not real clear, eh? OK. Let's go at this again. Dressed to kill gives me a strut in my walk that I don't get in normal girl clothes. Partly it's the heels - it's really hard to strut in tennis shoes... But part of it is just this awareness of...what? That I look good? Ok. That people (translate "men") are looking at me approvingly? Yep. That's in there too.

But there's something else that's hard to describe. I have heard that guys think about sex, and the sex act, like every 12 seconds or so. Most women I know well enough to have discussed this with don't think in such graphic terms more than 30% of the time. Let's see - in the course of a regular day, I am always sensual, and always aware of the sensual nature of non-sexual things - food, textiles, flowers, whatever. But dressed to the nine's, whether they are *sexy* clothes or business clothes, that awareness of *sensuality* turns into an awareness of *sexuality*. It's a little grittier, and there is a lot of power in that feeling - not power *over* guys, but power from within myself. It's sort of the difference between being a *girl* and being a *woman*, sort of an awareness of owning my own sexuality.

OTOH, someone back there mentioned that if a CD were given a pretty nightgown, it would bring up sexual feelings, but if a gg were given a pretty nightgown, it would bring up feelings of being loved, etc., which might lead to sexual feelings. I think that is an oversimplification of women's feelings - at least *this* woman's feelings. Give me a piece of sexy lingerie and I'm likely to feel sexy and sexual - but not as a solo activity.

I think that it probably is true that men's brains are wired differently - even as CDs, you do have a preponderance of male wiring. (TS's may be different - I don't know.) Males do seem to be more object oriented, whereas women's feelings of sexuality are more exprience oriented. Ah...maybe that's what I'm trying to say. Ya'll said you get turned on by the sexy clothes themselves, whereas I get turned on by the *experience* of wearing and being seen *in* the sexy clothes. I think that for men, sex is more of an activity - more of a stand-alone, discreet activity. For most women I know, it's more wrapped up in who we are - sensuality and sexuality bleed together on one big all-encompassing continuum and the dividing line is somewhat blurred together. For myself, however, give me some truly sexy outfit, the struttable kind, and the soft, sensuality is all gone and its this raw sexuality.

Finally, I don't agree at all about men give love to get sex and women give sex to get love. That's left over from the Victorian days where women consider the act of love to be distasteful and something required. God knows, I certainly hope that no women feel that way anymore!

Now, my question for ya'll is this - when you are dressed to the nine's in male clothes - got your power suit on, or your dancing shoes, or your Tony Lamas (if you're from Texas) and looking and smelling fine, do you get that sense of powerful sexuality? And do you think that non-CD males get it?

-g(so), wondering if she's the only gg left on this forum? Where'd they all go?