Our Inheritance?

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Our Inheritance?

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Hi all,

Well we have discussed an Identity, which I believe helps to direct us toward a destiny.

I also believe that no matter where one is on the trans-gendered scale, or where one is headed. We all have an inheritance that we were meant to enjoy.

And I believe the only way we can enjoy our inheritance is to reach our destiny.

The opposite of this is to be (remain) at the mercy of society. Or at least our perception of society.

The purpose of this thread is to discuss the things (in life) that rob us of our inheritance.

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Hi Loretta,

That's a wonderful thought. :) I like it! :)

What does inheritance mean to you?

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Hi Gracie,

Inheritance (to me) means reaching the place where we were created to reach.

If it is as many claim...we were made this way? Then there is a reason for it. And only when we reach that place will we find the things that bring us the things we desire, albeit they are likely to come packaged differently than we thought they should be.

It is my opinion that unless we are able to reach this place we will always be at the mercy of society.
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Loretta wrote:Hi all,

The purpose of this thread is to discuss the things (in life) that rob us of our inheritance.
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I believe that to be a very good and truthful answer Donna.
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We are dealing with sematics here! Inheritance is something we are given, good, bad or indifferent. Some of us have an inheritance and don't have a clue we have "it." Others can only wish for it , or have it and waste it, use it or ignore it! As for a destiny - I firmly believe we make our own destiny, kind of like the definition of luck: "Luck is simply preparation, meeting opportunity!" I do not believe that GOD'S upon HER throne controlling every little action that we have or do!! SHE has given us free-will, that is our inheritance from HER. We make our own destiny! The one guideline that I think SHE would most like us to follow on this "Magical Mystery Tour" is to simply be gentle with each other!!
From Proverbs: "Wisdom is the principle thing, therefore - get wisdom, but... with all thy getting GET UNDERSTANDING!"
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Well I agree there is a lot of truth to what you say Sis, Your post leaves some questions in my mind.

Are there things that we can do (in life) that prevent us from receiving our inheritance? I have heard of individuals being excluded from the wills of their parents, I have also heard of a family that went to court each hiring their own lawyer, and ended up with next to nothing, on top of ending up being a distant family as opposed to the close family they once were. (Irreparable destruction)

Free choice is not all it is cracked up to be by some. I think we all can recall someone who did not reach their full potential in life. In fact I know many who did not.

A lot of it has to do with the environment in which one was raised, and how that effects ones life

It is quite possible to make choices that Leeds to destruction. For instance the choice I made to marry the woman I did lead to destruction, as have many others. That obviously was not my inheritance which - by the way - I am now enjoying. But it took more than free will to get here. It took (among other things) being showed some of the lies I believed, so that I could use my free will to benefit my life as well as the benefit of others.

If that kind of thing happens ins ones life their destiny can be altered. I am not headed in the same direction that I used to be headed. As opposed to destruction I have now found and experienced victory.

And my cross dressing does not include being at the mercy of society.
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Loretta, honey, you seem to have answered your own question about our inheritance. Free Will, we all have it, we are born with it and we can choose to use it in any way that we see fit. I saw this on a T-shirt: "Guns don't kill people ---- I do!" Well you get the point! When you are born you have the choice, even if drain branaged to eat or not to eat. Inmates still have free will, either obey the rules and the guards or not. What we choose or don't choose should damn well become a learning experience for us so that if we did make a mistake we don't repeat it. That is a sign of insanity! Doing the exact same thing over and over and expecting different results! Doing the exact same thing over and over and expecting different results! Doing the exact same thing over and .... what the hell????? Anyway it is beautiful to either accept your gift and run with it or ignore it, suppress it or repress it - Free Will!!!!! I choose to accept mine and Virginia and I will use it and share it until we assume room temperature! (Hopefully together [-o< )
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Virginia wrote:Loretta, honey, you seem to have answered your own question about our inheritance. Free Will, we all have it, we are born with it and we can choose to use it in any way that we see fit. I saw this on a T-shirt: "Guns don't kill people ---- I do!" Well you get the point! When you are born you have the choice, even if drain branaged to eat or not to eat. Inmates still have free will, either obey the rules and the guards or not. What we choose or don't choose should damn well become a learning experience for us so that if we did make a mistake we don't repeat it. That is a sign of insanity! Doing the exact same thing over and over and expecting different results! Doing the exact same thing over and over and expecting different results! Doing the exact same thing over and .... what the hell????? Anyway it is beautiful to either accept your gift and run with it or ignore it, suppress it or repress it - Free Will!!!!! I choose to accept mine and Virginia and I will use it and share it until we assume room temperature! (Hopefully together [-o< )
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Hey Sis,

I love you honey, and I can assure you that the room temperature is nice and cozy here. No steam what so ever. I am quite at peace with who I am.

I was not asking myself a question that needed answering, That question was answered for me a long time ago. Suffice it to say I do not agree with you about the ability (of inmates)(as well as some others) to make the right choices. I think I have the right to do that.

The inmates are where they are because they have demonstrated that they have been unable to make the right choices. Call it what ever you like. But I call it the result of abuse, the insanity of our world. It might help you to see this better if you tried to support one of them. Get close enough to one of them that they will share with you what they went through in their childhood. It can be quite an eye opener.

Disclaimer - before anyone accuses me of condoning their behavior, Let it be quite clear that I am not doing that here.

Just as we cross dressers did not choose to go through the abuse that we have endured, nether did the inmates. It is not all that cut and dried. There is a lot more involved.

I will now ask you a question I asked my sadist mother a few years ago. Exactly at what age do we become mature enough to make the right choices? At what age do we become mature enough to stop doing the same thing over and over again expecting the same results in all areas of our lives? I believe we all will make some wrong choices for the rest of our lives. To be able to do otherwise would mean we could become perfect. God forbid.

I am not interested in having you answer that question for me. But there might be some wisdom in finding your own answer to that question.

PS. One sentence in my last post read incorrectly. I have edited it now to read as it was meant to read. That sentence is:

And my cross dressing does not include being at the mercy of society

Sorry for any confusion that might have caused.

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I think this, like many things in life, comes down to a basic question:

"You can do (fill in blank), but should you?"

We, as we are, are so much at the mercy of others, and society in general. It's not really what we would choose, given the option, but it's not a perfect world.

I do subscribe to the adage that you make your own destiny, but one also must realize many adjustments sometimes have to be made along the way.

I'm certainly not sure where my CD'ing should take me. I only enjoy the time I have to dress, and, of course, wish there were more acceptance from others. In another thread someone had wrote about how accepting society is of women wearing mens clothes, but it's certainly not the same for men to wear womens. I'll always wonder why that is... but, it really comes down to what society deems as accepting or normal.

Geez... once I start rambling, I forget what the subject was in the beginning!! :oops:

Anyway, I think it's always best to consider how our actions would impact others beforehand. I would love to dress at least 90% of the time or more... yet, I have to think about my wife and friends first.
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In part Paulie wrote:. In another thread someone had wrote about how accepting society is of women wearing mens clothes, but it's certainly not the same for men to wear womens. I'll always wonder why that is... but, it really comes down to what society deems as accepting or normal.
The difference is that the women are not attempting to pass as a man. They do not take on the walk of a man, or attempt to obtain the voice of a man etc. It is quite a different picture.
Paulie also wrote:Anyway, I think it's always best to consider how our actions would impact others beforehand. I would love to dress at least 90% of the time or more... yet, I have to think about my wife and friends first.
And do your wife and friends provide the same for you? Seems like it could be kind of one sided to me.
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Hi Loretta,
I think I kinda understand what you are saying, but I never said right or even wrong choices. I simply said "free will!" It is up to the individual in thoughtfullly planned out excution of an event or spur of the moment action or reaction but it is still free will. Yes, I have been inside of maximum security prisons and to quote Bill Cosby, "I am sure glad that these places exist." I, like you could tell lots of stories about those in there, but they are in there because they had the opportunity to exercise their free will - for most of them it was a bad decision and split second that ruined their lives. How they got to that point varies with each individual. One young man I met a real double for Tom Cruise had just graduated from college with a 3.8 out of 4.0 married and he and his new wife were at a bar to meet a friend and some "loser" started hitting on his wife and the problem escalated to his killing this guy. The "loser" was just that, in and out of prison all his life, for everything from car theft to strong armed robbery. but the jury basically said "you killed this person, regardless of how "bad" he was he did not deserve to die at your hands - guilt! - spend the rest of your life in jail!" both had free- will right or wrong. In a split second, lives changed because of decisions made with the free will to decide.
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Hiya Loretta,
I have to clarify my first statement...
I was speaking in terms of those who sometimes just would enjoy being able to wear a skirt and heels in public without trying to pass as a woman.

I have to agree with your second comment...
Sometimes I do think it's a one way street, which is certainly not the best option for me. Yet, changing others attitudes can take some time... and, there are those that will never change. Not the best situation, but sometimes you just have to live with it.
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Virginia wrote: One young man I met a real double for Tom Cruise had just graduated from college with a 3.8 out of 4.0 married and he and his new wife were at a bar to meet a friend and some "loser" started hitting on his wife and the problem escalated to his killing this guy. The "loser" was just that, in and out of prison all his life, for everything from car theft to strong armed robbery. but the jury basically said "you killed this person, regardless of how "bad" he was he did not deserve to die at your hands - guilt! - spend the rest of your life in jail!" both had free- will right or wrong. In a split second, lives changed because of decisions made with the free will to decide. And consequently were unable to pass them on to me.
Hi Sis

I find it interesting that you have experience with those kind of people. That is not something I would have guessed. Being as financially well off as I have pictured you to be.

I guess the point I would like to make is that spilt second decision was based on a preconditioned mind set. It can probably be best described as when he was confronted by the looser he reached into his solution bank, and that was the best tool he had (in his possession) to deal with the situation.

When a person resorts to that kind of behavior it is IMO because they have no other tools with which to take care of the situation.

I have shared here that I have been able to experience both sides of life (so to speak). Meaning that there was a time in my life that in the same circumstance as the young man you met, I would have responded in a like manner. Because at that time (in my judgement) that would have been the right thing to do to solve the problem.

Today I would not respond like that. today when I need to reach into my solution bank, there are other resources (tools) there with which to work with. They are there as a result of a reconditioning and/or a retraining if you will.

That reconditioning and/or a retraining was necessary, (for me) due to the fact that my family of origin, did not possess the tools necessary to deal with those kinds of situations in a positive manner. And consequently were unable to pass them on to me.
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In part Paulie wrote: I have to agree with your second comment...
Sometimes I do think it's a one way street, which is certainly not the best option for me. Yet, changing others attitudes can take some time... and, there are those that will never change. Not the best situation, but sometimes you just have to live with it.
Hi Paulie,

My intent was/is that you consider (are aware) of that possibly being the situation.
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