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Hi Virginia:

Ah, we may be getting outside this thread but, in answer to your last post, it is all based on "FAITH."

"Do not do as I do, do as I say." FAITH. :)

I remember as a child, I was not to question my parents, my teachers. They claimed to know what was best for me. I too found myself in that role with my son. FAITH.

Now, as an adult you find that things are not always what you thought that they were or should be. FAITH.

As resolute as I may write on this forum, I still have FAITH that things while not exact, exist in some form for my benefit. FAITH.

A story at bedtime is better than no story at all. FAITH.

Downy, a little in the wash and things do not get into a "wad" or a "bunch" as often. FAITH
:) :) :) :) :)

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Danielle,
Girls are quick are we not?! :lol:
I have faith but you know that! I have faith that God, some consider to be an absentee landlord, others have faith that God is the prime mover when it comes to picking their nose. Still others see God as a big prankster. Well, He/She allows one bunch of these little "carbon units" to strap several pounds of C-4 to themselves and their baby carbon units, walk out among other carbon units and blow the whole group into little pieces, simply because their faith does not correspond with someone else's faith.
I have faith that the sun will rise and set. I have faith that my SO and I will be happy for a long long time. I have faith that Virginia can pull my backside out of most any trouble that I get in. I have faith that my sisters here on this forum will "tell it like it is," in most cases. I have faith that the hypocrisy exuded by most western religions will continue. I have faith that I am going to die ------------- NO scratch that I may decide to live forever! Well I have faith in that! I have faith that Democrats have no clue and that Republicans are so gutless as to be virtually opaque in their questionable existence!
I have faith that I love you and the good that you do for all of us!!!
Yes, I have faith and love and empathy!
I have faith that I love all my sisters!
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As a reminder, ladies, the topic of this thread is Susan (Steven) Stanton, although I will be the first to admit that religion does play a big part in this situation. However, religion only plays a part because the Largo City Commissioners are being pressured by the "religious right" to do what they want them to do, instead of following civil law. If civil law was to be put into practice, then Stanton would not lose her employment. It is clear that discrimination is being practiced by the City of Largo.

If Susan Stanton does indeed lose her job, it will not be due to poor job performance (the opposite is true, actually, as she's very good at her job). The loss of employment will be solely because the City Commissioners gave in to the pressure from the religious right. What a shame.

Separation of Church and State? Seems like the religious right has forgotten that part of our Constitution. What a disgrace.

Danielle - I, for one, certainly appreciate you keeping this thread up-to-date on the situation as it unfolds! You have just earned yourself a raise from 'Cub (Cute) Reporter' to 'Full-Fledged (Cute) Reporter'!! =D> No paycheck for you, but a great big hug and kiss instead!!

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Thank You. Thank You. Phew!

I think it's my bed time. Fluff my pillow, check on my bears for comfort.

Ahh. Goodnight!

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The latest I found....it seems susan had planned her transition in detail (which makes sense) but the press kinda messed her up. And no more religion from me...and won't even discuss politics....grrrr
heres the article http://www.sptimes.com/2007/03/16/Tampa ... n_pl.shtml
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Hi DeeDee:

Thank you for the new link. I will go there shortly.

Never give up on discussing politics or Religion. Discussion is the key word here. Argumentation is a gifted science. To argue your case and point of view is a gift of freedom and democracy, ask any barrister (lawyer).

Your point of view is both welcome and interesting. When things do not go your way, switch gears, accelerate past the issue and clutch onto a new agenda. I jusy say things at times to stimulate interest. I can be such a wolf in sheeps clothing at times.

You made some good points. How else will you hone your jousting skill if you give up and say nothing. :) :) :) :)

Do not take your football and go home. The game is afoot my dear DeeDee and we have only begun to play the game at it's best.

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If you want to get a idea how the Feds think about us read the whole ruling in my case "Oiler v. Winn Dixie". By the way Winn Dixie home office is Jacksonville ,Fl. If your thinking a differt judge will rule differt, just look at who is they boss, Mr.Bush. do I need to say more :-k
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Hi Donna:

Fortunately, Susan Stanton is not working for a for-profit corporation right now. By working for a local government, this case may be treated rather differently. Of course, if it goes to Federal court, there could be changes that we cannot expect.

One thing is for certain. The Fed has proven that currently, they do not want to get involved in this matter. Cases that get elevated to that level often are sent back to local jurisdiction for settlement these days. The Oiler vs Winn Dixie case while employs similar TG relationships, is not the same as what we are currently seeing.

There is local support for Stanton currently wanting her to retain her job. I think this will not become a federal case. It will be settled locally, or if Federal, in the Miami Federal District Court system. Different judges may yield a different result.

While a Federal decision could be helpful to our cause, it will take an act of the Supreme Court to get a firm ruling and they do not want anything to do with this hot potatoe yet! States are expected to enact laws and guidelines along those of exisiting Federal laws to enforce the exisiting rules of order for employment and discrimination.

Stanton's job is under the heading of "At-Will Employment Law." Simply put, you can quit when you want to and they can fire you for no given reason at any time. Good casue, bad cause or no cause, the employer is free to discharge the individual. The majority in this Country fall into this category.

All states have this law on the books. This comes from English Common Law. Since 1959 there have been created some exceptions to this law. But, the burden of proof for those exceptions to be valid is on the discharged employee.

Stanton must demonstrate that he was discharged on the basis of one of those few exceptions and that it was not voluntary on his part. It gets twisted but for the most part, one can read more on this subject at:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/At-will_employment

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Hi Girls:

Danielle Marie here with all the "poop that's worth a scoop!!" :lol: :lol: :lol:


Official word from my "Magic 8 Ball!!"

Question: Will Stanton get to keep her job?

Answer: "You can rely on it."

There you have it girls! "You can rely on it!"....... if life were that easy!

Remember that Stanton is to present her point of view:

March 23rd at 6:00pm....City Hall - City of Largo...

I will try and post press reports as they are released via the WEB. If I miss something jump right in and post for me please.

Recent letters to the editor posted a previous female employee with less than a stellar attitude toward Stanton's work practices. I will find and post next.

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Today's Letters: Commission right on Stanton
By LETTERS TO THE EDITOR
Published March 19, 2007

Largo City Manager Steve Stanton's firing is not a matter of discrimination.

As an 18-year resident of the city of Largo, and a previous Largo employee for 12 years, I am eminently more qualified to speak to the issues at hand regarding the removal of Stanton from his position as city manager.
First and foremost, under Florida law, employment contracts which do not specify a definite term of service are terminable "at will." In other words, an employee can quit or be fired at any time for any reason, other than those proscribed by law (e.g., race, sex, handicap, age, etc.). Beyond Stanton's contract term, the city can fire him for valid and proper reasons.
The longtime commissioners and employees will remember our previous city manager, Steve Bonczek. We all breathed a sigh of relief when the city terminated his employment.
Unfortunately, Largo went from the frying pan into the fire.
Stanton spent his entire career utilizing his position to wield his power like a weapon on the hapless employees of Largo. Since he had no control in his personal life, he was able to make up for it with unquestioning control at his position with the city. "I own your mouth - 24/7." Those words are familiar to many an employee who has been admonished or fired for not adhering to this edict sent down from on high. We were city employees first, human beings second.
I will not regurgitate the St. Petersburg Times' own factoids regarding Stanton's management style and his apparent delight at firing anyone who did not agree with him - regardless of whether they were exceedingly qualified to make necessary, pertinent decisions based upon what was really right by law and right for Largo.
I was witness to Stanton systematically decimating the Community Development Department, starting at the top with a 17-year employee, director Richard Goss. Within nine months, one-third of the key department personnel were gone. Again, in the Times' and Stanton's own words, "I kinda cleaned house." Stanton then proceeded to put an engineer (instead of a planner) in charge of the Planning Department (Community Development).
Largo has minimum requirements for employment. One must have an established standard of relevant schooling/experience to step into certain positions commanding a high level of specialized knowledge and supervisory acumen. Regardless of whether it "worked" for the city, it was what Stanton wanted.
The Times may be perfectly capable of conducting a poll on the public's opinions regarding Stanton's removal from his position. However, unless these individuals live in Largo, or more importantly, really have had the experience of working with him, their limited viewpoint is based solely on the perception the firing is about gay/lesbian/transgender/religious repression and small-minded discrimination.
However, I did my own poll, exclusively with Largo employees and citizens, and it was unanimously in favor of permanently removing Stanton from his position. This carries more weight than the one lone, misguided employee/citizen who spoke in Stanton's defense at both City Commission meetings. How plausible is it that only one of the 1,200 city employees is a Largo citizen? Somehow, I doubt it.
The commission made the correct decision for Largo.
Kathleen Finnerty, Largo


Largo's actions tarnish its image
Having spent years in both Port Richey and Tampa, I've watched the area progress since moving away in the early 1990s. The news I've seen coming out of the area is sometimes tragic, sometimes heartwarming, sometimes hilarious.
This recent turn of events regarding Largo City Manager Steve Stanton's firing and the arrest of Nadine Smith, executive director of Equality Florida, however, is simply shocking.
During my years in Florida, I always regarded Largo as a relaxed, charming sort of community. But these actions of discrimination and bullying are evidence that the forces largely running Largo are hateful, unsophisticated and an embarrassment to civilized folks.
I pity sensible leaders like Mayor Pat Gerard, who seems to be shouldering far more than her burden in her attempt to keep Largo in the 21st century.
And I hope that both Stanton and Smith will have the courage to continue to stay in the area and defend their moral high ground. Those five commissioners who voted against Stanton, as well as those police officers who threw Smith to the ground, should be ashamed of themselves. They've tarnished Largo.
Will O'Bryan, Washington, D.C.


Let the residents hear from Susan
Now that Steve Stanton has had plenty of interviews, how about a few interviews with his "other self," Susan Stanton, in print and on TV - maybe even a town meeting or two? It would help the good people of Largo get to know her a little.
And then, let the people of Largo decide, with a vote, whether to make the transition over to Susan with him, or continue with Steve's termination.
Louis Mignacca, Safety Harbor


Stanton selfishly robs son of dad
I don't think anyone is surprised that Steve Stanton is considering challenging his recent release from duty. As a man, he suggested that he had no interest in litigation. But circumstances, like Mr. Stanton's gender, can change. Talk about your classic "he said, she said" situation.
Firing him might be a mistake, but realistically shouldn't Mr. Stanton have resigned and quietly faded away to parts unknown to start her new life?
It is not realistic to hire somebody and ask them if they are going to have a sex change. I mean, what are the odds? Mr. Stanton did not desecrate an oath to his office. He did, however, commit himself to eternal manhood when he became a father.
Forget his marital vows - most people don't hold up to that commitment. But even if a man ends up dead or in prison, he will always be the father of his children. A kid deserves at least that. Thirteen-year-old boys have enough to worry about. How could anyone be selfish enough to take a young boy's father off the face of the earth and replace him with a second mother?
Mr. Stanton, if you are reading this, please reconsider. Or maybe you don't remember how tough it was to be 13. You think you are confused about life and gender assignment? Try explaining it to your friends in middle school.
My best wishes to your family as they clean up the mess created by your selfish desires.
David Fraser, Clearwater


Re: Keep and support our city manager letter, March 7
All that matters: Can he do the job?
I agree with letter writers Robert and Nola Pierce. As a past Largo resident, I think it should not matter what Steve Stanton does in his personal life. What matters is the job that he is doing now.
The City Commission needs to look at all of his accomplishments. They need to support and stand by this person, as he has made a difficult decision with his family.
Fred and Patricia McNeil, Clearwater


Largo missed a chance to shine
I am a 61-year-old wife, mother and daughter. I spent 20 years teaching in the public schools before changing careers to engineering, manufacturing and management. I have been closely following the story of Steve Stanton, and I live in northern Michigan.
You might question why what happens in Largo would be of concern to me in northern Michigan. And, normally, you would be right. But the events of the last week have me incensed, not only for my perception of discrimination and prejudice directed at Mr. Stanton, but what this entire scenario is saying about women in general.
Mr. Stanton's is the second transgender firing to which I have been privileged within the last month, the other here in Michigan. In both instances, men who had been professionally respected in careers they had held for extensive time were fired on the premise that if they "became a woman," they would be incapable of continuing to professionally hold their positions.
The blatant message here is that females are incapable of professional credibility and excellence.
In the 21st century, we are still subjecting women to less than equal status, socially, politically, and professionally.
I have been extremely successful in both of my very diverse careers, but with great effort to overcome social stigma that "women" just weren't as capable as males. I have spent a lifetime at less than optimum wage levels because of my gender, not my abilities.
The case in Michigan, which is also an "employment at will" state, was being heard March 6 in front of the U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission.
Largo, you had the opportunity to shine as one of the communities that chose to uphold the rights of the individual and uphold the status of women in professional roles. Sadly, you have chosen to exercise your "employment at will" rights, in the face of federal equal opportunity laws.
As a resident of another community whose largest industry is tourism, I can only guess what message you are sending on that account.
You have done grave disservice to the many women, genetic or medically altered, living not only in Largo, but across the entire country.
Carol Leigh, Gaylord, Mich.


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Steve Stanton's transition plan
Editor's Note: This is a typewritten copy of an early draft of Steve Stanton's transition plan that was presented to his transition team, including Mayor Pat Gerard. There are several typos, including the names of Police Chief Lester Aradi, resident Ruby Padgett Brooks and Commissioner Gigi Arntzen.


Published March 16, 2007

Employment Time Schedule

HR Director to Begin Employment Policy and Guidelines: (Jan 18 - Feb 28)
The city currently has a policy that governor's discrimination and harassment in the work place but it does not specifically address accommodating transgendered employees. Susan needs to review these sample guidelines and determine what is relevant and necessary. The final revision should address employment related issue for transgendered employees and not focused on me. The sample manuals I have seen address most of the issues and questions that people will have.

Establishment of a "Transition" Group: (February 12, 2007)
Given the social, political and administrative impact with the gender transition of a high profile public official, it would be a good to work with interested people to review this proposed time schedule as well identify potential problems areas. The suggested group consisting of you, Eric, Pat Burke, Howard Richy should also the Police Chief and Human Resource Director who can give critical feedback to this transition time schedule. The following additional members might also be included:

• An influential Religious Leadership (Possibly Rev. Arnold Johnson)
• A transgender Specialist suggested by Kathleen Farrell)
• General city resident who can be supportive and help built a community based support network. (possibly Rubby Pagined)
Confidential Meeting with Editors of SP Times: (Friday, May 18, 2007)
I had a brief discussion with Diane eight months ago and told her I was planning on talking with her in the near future to discuss a "personal issue and leadership opportunity." I am confident that she will meet with you and me off the record in exchange for writing a story prior to the release of the information. It is critical to have the support of the paper in this effort and I am confident that the Times will be supportive and see this as an opportunity to demonstrate diversity in the work place etc. Questions to be addressed are:
Should anyone else be included in this meeting?
• Chief Arodi
• Personal therapist
• Independent Transgender Expert
• Human Resource Director

City Commission Notification by City Manager: (Wednesday, June 6, 2007)
I will have individual meetings with the remaining members of the City Commission (except Commissioner Black) in the following order: Woods, Arson, Guyette and Crozier. I am not really sure of how much advance notice I can, or should, give the Commission. I feel once they, and their spouses know, the secret will not be a secret very long.

• I do not want any of them to feel slighted by my delayed disclosure.
• I trust each one of them but feel it is unfair to place this burden on them and ask them "not to tell"
CM meeting with ACM's and Finance Director: (Thursday, morning, June 7, 2007)
I feel it is appropriate to have individual conversations with each one of these guys outside of the general staff meeting. Henry and I have worked closely for 17 years and I enjoy a close working relationship with Mac.

• Of particular concern with be Kim given is religious belief regarding transsexuals. Of all directors, I am most worried that he will consider resigning over this.

CM Meeting with Executive Staff: (Thursday, afternoon, June 7, 2007)
This will be a special staff meeting held in the EOC for maximum privacy. While directors will obviously be shocked and concerned for both my welfare and future, I feel they will all be supportive.

• Would it be appropriate to have individual meetings with each director the night before as a professional courtesy?
• I do not have a strong relationship with the two new directors as a result of their short tenure with the city.

Mayor's Announcement to the City (Thursday, evening, June 7, 2207)
This would be first public disclosure of my transsexualism, future and intention to remain employed as city manager. This announcement will be a general statement to both the city and the community and include the time, place and attendees of a news conference for the next day. The announcement would include the following points:
• City's existing commitment prohibiting discrimination based on gender identification and expression
• Medical dynamics of transsexualism
• City Manager's 17 year's of service to the community
• Executive management support
City Manager's Letter to City Employees: (Friday morning, June 8, 2007)
This city e-mail will be distributed to all employees the next morning. It will be a two page letter from me and give personal information about my history and plans for the future. The letter will acknowledge our mutual discomfort and awkwardness with this situation and my commitment to answer any of their questions and concerns.

• This e-mail will be made available to media after distribution to employees
• The e-mail will be prepared in the next month.

City Afternoon News Conference (Friday Afternoon, 2:00 PM, June 8, 2007)
This will be the first opportunity of the general media to ask specific questions of me and you regarding my future and the impact this disclosure will have on my ability to remain city manager. Key issues to be addressed are as follows:

• I will attend this conference as Steven but not Susan
• Who should talk first
• What should my opening statement consist of?
• Where should the press conference take place?
• What is the best time? I assume about 4:00 to get the coverage behind me.
• Who should be in attendance?
o Mayor
o Police Chief
o Fire Chief
o Dr. Kathleen Farrell and or Personal Physician Dr. Carter
o Human Resource Director

City Manager Lease of Absence: (June 11-15, 2007)
After the news conference, I think it would be advantageous for me to take a leave of absence for one week and give the city time to absorb this news. In addition, it would also give the Human Resource Department time to meet with employees to address the numerous work place issues that will undoubtedly be in the minds of employees. Key issues which need to be discussed are:

• Would my absence create a wild "feeding frenzy"? It is easier to say inflammatory things about someone when they are not present.






Employees and Community Information Workshops: (June 11-15, 2007)

These workshops will be led by the Human Resource Department, or possibly by a third party who specializes in transgender issues. The purpose of these sessions will be to address the specific questions employees will have regarding the impact on the work place. A separate workshop should also be scheduled for the general public during evening hours to explain what transsexualism and answer their questions. Topics to be included at the city workshop would include:

• Application of city's Discrimination and Harassment policy
• Use of restrooms and locker rooms
• Application of city's dress code
• What name to address city manager
• General explanation of the transition process
• What name will appear on the Commission dais


City Manager Returns Back to Work: (June 18, 2007)

This will be the "big day" and will conceivably be of high interest to the media. It will be the first time the Susan Stanton will present herself to the city and will undoubted cause initial disruptions at city hall. Key issues to be developed addressed include:

• Would it be appropriate to be accompanied by another person walking in?
• Should I provide a picture of what I will look like before showing up for work?
• Is there value is some lunch time "Come and Meet Susan" type event. This also will be very awkward but might help employees get passed their discomfort.


Susan Stanton's First City Commission Meeting: (June 19, 2007)

This first meeting will be the most stressful time for both the City Commission and me. There will undoubtedly be members of the general public calling for my immediate dismissal as a result of this "immoral life style choice". I anticipate the same large crowd of people returning to the chambers who objected to the human rights ordinance. Unfortunately, this time they will have a name and a face to target their anger. :

• I need to create a community based support network to speak on my behalf who are not members of the transgender community.
o This will involving sensitive timing
• It is imperative that this evening not degenerate into circus like environment
• Plan of action to address residents who begin to engage in personal attacks.






City Manager Employee Meeting: (June 20, 21 and 22, 2007)

These sessions will be small group discussions with interested employees who want to ask personal questions about transsexualism etc. There would be no media allowed in these staff discussions. People need to understand that gender transition is done with the help of medical professionals, in accordance with recognized standards of care that have been in use since the 1960s. I think it would be educational to give a general overview of the transition process:

• Initial psychological testing to rule out other diagnoses
• Psychiatric monitoring and counseling over several months to assess extent of condition and
• understanding of consequences, obstacles, etc.;
• Health evaluation for hormone therapy;
• Administration of hormones;
• Continued monitoring to assess reaction to hormone-induced physical changes;
• Trial living period of at least one year to ascertain level of comfort in reassigned gender
• Reassigned gender, sometimes, but not always, accompanied by surgical reconstruction of primary and secondary sex characteristics, facial structure, etc.


City Manager Legal Name Change: (August 1, 2007)

This will take about two months. It is my understanding there is a public notice so this legal process can not begin until June.


Gender Reassignment Surgery: (June/July, 2008)
In order to have gender reassignment surgery in the United States, a person must meet six general criteria covered by the Harry Benjamin Standard of Care. A transsexual person must be
• Over 18 years old,
• On continuous hormonal therapy for 12 months without a medical contraindication,
• Successfully and continuously have a full time real-life experience for12 months,
• Maintain a regular sessions with a mental health professional throughout the real life experience, and
• Knowledgeable of the cost, required lengths of hospitalizations, likely complications, and post surgical rehabilitation requirements of various surgical approaches and Awareness of different competent surgeons
The two "readiness criteria" include demonstrable progress in consolidating the new gender identity and dealing with work, family, and interpersonal issues resulting in a significantly better or at least a stable state of mental health.

Summary
Pat, it goes without saying, a successful gender transition in this public setting is very much dependent on:

• Your active and public support in the community,
• Susan Sinz's ability to educate and prepare city staff,
• Chief Arodi's and Jeff Bullock's willingness to communicate their belief that my transgenderism will not impact my effectiveness as a city manager.
• Pat Burke's ability to develop a community support network to offset the calls for immediate termination
• My ability to clearly demonstrate this will not critically distract me from my duties and responsibility as city manager and to retain the respect and support of city staff.
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Focus shifts to Stanton record:

Criticism of his job as city manager is pushing aside his gender change plans as ammunition against him.

By LORRI HELFAND
Published March 21, 2007

LARGO - The debate over Steve Stanton's future as Largo city manager began with his plans to become a woman.

But it could end with an examination of Stanton's 14 years as a forceful leader whose record includes both good deeds and controversial decisions.

Commissioners who voted 5-2 last month to place Stanton, 48, on paid leave will decide Friday night whether to fire him.

In a 19-page summary sent to City Hall on Monday, his attorney outlined his accomplishments.

On his watch, the city improved services, attorney Karen Doering said. It created a long-range redevelopment plan, built a modern library and cultural center and expanded its boundaries, boosting property tax revenue by nearly $10-million.

City Commissioners recognized that record in a series of positive evaluations, she said.

But since commissioners put him on leave three weeks ago, a few have brought up Stanton's reputation for hard-nosed treatment of employees.

The list of those terminated with Stanton's approval includes a low-level worker who cared for his elderly mother during a hurricane, two veteran fire officials and the city's risk manager.

"Unless you've worked with the man behind the scenes for many years, you wouldn't know his management style," Vice Mayor Harriet Crozier said. "That's not the kind of city manager I would want."

Nonetheless, Crozier rated his performance as better than good - essentially a B-plus - on his most recent annual evaluation.

A handful of residents also complain that Stanton wields too much power, and one even calls Largo "Stantonville." Among other things, they say he bullied an Army reservist by taking her to task in a letter for wearing her uniform in violation of Army regulations to public meetings where she criticized the city.

Another commissioner said he is concerned that Stanton has taken advantage of employees he confided in.

Stanton, who has served as city manager longer than anyone in Largo's 102-year history, made no apologies for his management style Tuesday.

"We ran a high-performance organization," he said. "I had very defined expectations of every employee. If they could not do their jobs they didn't stay employed with the city of Largo."

In her case to the city, Doering contended that Stanton was following the advice of professionals when he began telling a few trusted colleagues about his plans.

Stanton had a plan for making the transition as smooth as possible, but that plan was ruined when word leaked out prematurely, she said.

But Crozier, whose husband works for the city, said she has had concerns about Stanton's treatment of employees for quite a while.

One of the top casualties on her list was public works employee James Gesicki, who was fired in August 2004 after he chose to stay with his 81-year-old mother the day Hurricane Charley was supposed to hit the area.

At the time Crozier said the city acted appropriately, but now she says his discipline was too harsh.

Stanton stands by that decision, saying it was necessary to have first responders on duty "to ensure the overall safety of the community."

Commissioner Andy Guyette questioned the termination of two veteran fire officials in 2005, shortly after the current fire chief took the helm.

Guyette also said he was starting to doubt the necessity of firing former risk manager Patrick Bennett in November. Stanton dismissed Bennett after a disagreement over calculating the city's property values.

But Doering, Stanton's attorney, said the timing of the commission's change of heart shows it is linked to Stanton's choice to become a woman.

That's discriminatory, she said.

"If these were actual problems, they would have been brought up in annual evaluations or before he announced he's transitioning," said Doering, senior counsel for the National Center for Lesbian Rights, one of several groups lending Stanton support.

"That's his management style," Doering said. "It has always been his management style. And they had always known it was his management style."

After doing Stanton's most recent evaluation last fall, commissioners awarded him a raise of nearly 9 percent, bringing his salary to $140,234 annually.

Guyette said he supported Stanton's personal choice and initially planned to support his continued employment.

But Guyette said a St. Petersburg Times story about Stanton's "circle of trust" convinced him that Stanton had a long-term plan to manipulate people.

The story, published the Sunday after Stanton's plans became public, described how he confided in a handful of city officials he could count on for support.

Guyette is concerned that Stanton stocked his "circle of trust" with underlings he could manipulate and may have made personnel decisions based on what was best for him, not for the city.

"Decisions were made in the last few years that violated our trust and compromised the city itself," Guyette said.

But Stanton said he fired employees because they couldn't perform and hired and promoted them because they were good leaders.

"Look at people in leadership positions and ask if they have performed," he said. "Have they done the job? They have all done the job. It had nothing to do with any grand plan."

Lorri Helfand can be reached at 445-4155 or lorri@sptimes.com.

What's next

Largo city commissioners will hold a public hearing to decide City Manager Steve Stanton's future with the city at 6 p.m. Friday at Largo City Hall, 201 Highland Ave. Stanton will have up to three hours to present his case. The public also will be allowed to speak before the commission makes its decision.

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Remember girls what I said before and standby today:

Poke a stick into a fireant mound and stand back! More action takes place in that mound than at a combined roller derby and stockcar crashup derby!

Remove the stick and the mound returns to it's usual business. Right now, Stanton is that stick. The only way that Stanton can stay on is if people all agree to accept the changes on face value. Unfortunately, that is not going to happen any time soon. There will be in the forseeable future, turmoil and painful fits of adjustment with some resigning voluntarily until the combination of people in power is balanced.

You have to break a few eggs to make an omlet!

Just an opinion mind you.

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http://www.sptimes.com/2007/webspecials ... s/stanton/


There is so much to cover, I have decided to provide the direct link to the newspaper page that has many, many links and video for those following this case.

Too much info at once for this "CUB" reporter.... :lol:

Let's hear from the forum...... :) :)

History is being made right now as the World watches Largo, Fla.

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