Dallas TS denied access to Casino

JoAnnDallas · Post by **JoAnnDallas** » Fri Aug 03, 2007 9:59 am

Here is a link to an article where a Dallas TS was denied access to a Casino.

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Post by **DonnaT** » Fri Aug 03, 2007 10:53 am

Too many spaces in the url JoAnn

http://www.dallasvoice.com/artman/publi ... e_6256.php

Tekla · Post by **Tekla** » Fri Aug 03, 2007 11:16 am

Well no points for style or grace there. The cassino might have a point, but I doubt it. Could have handled it better, no doubt there.

Amanda Barber · Post by **Amanda Barber** » Fri Aug 03, 2007 7:33 pm

If she didn't take the time to get her ID photo updated and went to a place that requires ID, I have to side with the casino on this one.

Casino require ID, because winnings have to be recorded and filed with the IRS or have witholding taken out.

I beleive she is flat out lying when she say that her ID not matching her apperance has never been an issue at airports. getting the gender changed, or even a feminine name change requires counceling letters in most states, but it VERY easy to get a photo retaken for a lisence or passport.

Gaven McLaren · Post by **Gaven McLaren** » Sat Aug 04, 2007 9:43 am

The story stated that she could not change her TX id because she has not undergone gender reassignment surgery. Which is the law in TX. I agree the casino could have handled the situation better however they were following the law to the letter. As I work security at ren. faires on the weekends I know how important it is to follow rules by the letter.

Amanda Barber · Post by **Amanda Barber** » Sat Aug 04, 2007 7:57 pm

Gaven McLaren wrote:The story stated that she could not change her TX id because she has not undergone gender reassignment surgery. Which is the law in TX.

There is no law in TX, Louisiana, or any other state that says you can't get an updated accurate photo on your ID.

"looked similar to the photo on her ID" similar isn't an accruate photo.

"We have to be black and white, by the book. Either the person’s ID is representative of how they look or it isn’t,"
Why didn't she look like her ID?

Darlene · Post by **Darlene** » Wed Aug 15, 2007 1:26 pm

Amanda is right, there is no law preventing any CD, TG or TS in getting their photo changed on their ID in TX or LA or in any other state for that matter. The law relates only to the gender classification on an ID. Most CD's do not live as women and therefore it would not make much sense to have your ID altered. However, in the TG case, it would have made sense to get her photo updated since she is living as a woman and is in fact a female impersonator.

The other truth to the matter is that in TX and LA the casinos are allowed to set their own policies regardless of the ID requirements. So they could have allowed her in. The reason they choose the path they did is for liability. As Amanda pointed out taxes, records etc. must be kept and therefore if a casino has a policy that does not comply with the standard of law, they accept the liability for the policy.

Irregardless, she should sue for having to suffer humiliation, there was no call to treat her the way the story depicted. And let's be real, how many of us really look like our ID photos anyway, gender aside, mine still has a mustache! I think there is more to the story than is being told in that article but it was interesting to read!

Hugs...

Darlene

SilverLady(SO) · Post by **SilverLady(SO)** » Sun Sep 09, 2007 9:41 pm

Welcome to the Forum, Veronica!

Just a suggestion, but you might want to drop in to the New Members section and introduce yourself to everyone . . . either way, we're glad you've joined the best place in cyberspace!

- SL

JoAnnDallas · Post by **JoAnnDallas** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 7:49 am

I do know here in Texas that you can get a offical ID card. It is not a DL but is official ID for everything else. Not sure if you can have both a DL and the ID card.

Post by **DonnaT** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 11:00 am

Veronica Fallon wrote:Hmmm... makes me wonder if many states would allow us to get two driver's licenses- one with our regular male photo, & the other exactly the same but with our photo en-femme? Anyone know much about the laws pertaining to this???

Hugz,

Veronica

Wlecome to the forum Veronica.

I doubt any state will issue two DLs. Especially since 9/11.

CherylM · Post by **CherylM** » Thu Apr 03, 2008 7:44 am

I used to work in the gaming industry. Most states casino laws permit the operator to deny entrance to ANY individual for ANY reason, or for no reason. You should see the film "21". Also the older film "Rain Man". Casinos often deny entrance to card counters, because the casino is in business to make money.

Violet · Post by **Violet** » Thu Apr 03, 2008 6:41 pm

Step forward & present ID please! I have an issue with the whole concept of having the government determine what gender I am, I feel the less I have to use any form of ID for any purpose the better. & come on, if the ID has male name & face but it is being carried by a female, it's pretty obvious what's going on. Casino employees could have showed some discretion, at the least ushered this lady to a private space where she didn't have to stand around while the locals got to gawk&point at the 'hommasekshul shemale'.

"He said if you're a man, then you have to look like a man to come into our casino,"

So inappropriate.