Make-up help

Kyra · Post by **Kyra** » Fri Jan 16, 2004 7:56 am

Hey y'all,
What kind of foundation do you use? My beard comes in rather dark and i'm looking for a really good cover.

Any tips?

Thanks,
Kyra[/quote]

Alexandra · Post by **Alexandra** » Fri Jan 16, 2004 5:00 pm

Cover your beard with concealer then apply the foundation.

Here's one to try: Cover Girl Smoothers -- it comes in a lip-stick style tube. If you don't know what color to select, pick #715 medium and later adjust the color up or down to suit your skin color. The foundation ought to match the concealer color too for best results.

CJ · Post by CJ » Wed Jan 21, 2004 8:16 am

Hi all,

Kyra,

Here's a link to Jenelle's advice page (and a good one it is). Although it loads slowly sometimes, it's well worth the wait.

Love,
Christina

http://jenellerose.com/advice.htm

Julie Miller · Post by **Julie Miller** » Mon Jan 26, 2004 6:39 am

I have found that going to the Clinique counter and asking the saleswoman to help me pick the right foundation works best.
I have always been treated as a valuable customer.
I have never been put off or embarrassed.

The ladies are trained to help you look your best. They can suggest the right shades and colors.

In fact, this week I am planning to refresh my make-up bag with a trip to the department store. It's also a lot of fun. Just go when they are not too busy.

Julie

S. Lisa Smith · Post by **S. Lisa Smith** » Mon Jan 26, 2004 9:57 pm

Some people have great luck using a red or orange lipstick under their foundation to cancel out the "blue black" of their beard. One dabs on the lipstick lightly and sets it with powder. The next thing is to put foundation over that. Having said all of that, it never worked for me

What has worked over the years is the beard cover that TV (excuse the pun) anchors use. It is available in costume shops. You put it on over the shadow, powder it and then put foundation over that. You have to go lightly or it will look like it was caked on. I have also used Dermablend, which is sold in many stores. It is used to cover scars, tatoos etc. It also is very heavy, so care is essential. The trouble I had was it didn't really match my skin tone and it only comes in a few colors.

The best advise I can give is like Julie's, go to Clinque, Merle Norman (my favorite), Mac (very trans friendly and trained to help us, I'm told) or to a Mary Kay Lady. They should be able to help you. Good luck, I love makeup and I hope you will, too!

Kyra · Post by **Kyra** » Mon Jan 26, 2004 11:19 pm

Thanks to all for wonderful advice.
I know a Mary Kay rep...but I'm fearful of what might happen if I tell her. (I don't think she'd flip out, but she does have the "Gift of Gab") So I'll try another route.

Thanks again.
Hugs and Kisses,
Kyra

Alexandra · Post by **Alexandra** » Tue Jan 27, 2004 2:21 am

S. Lisa Smith wrote:Some people have great luck using a red or orange lipstick under their foundation to cancel out the "blue black"

Not to knock what works for you girls, but when I brought this up with some GGs (experts too), they say it would stain the skin!

Any comments?

Amber(SO) · Post by **Amber(SO)** » Tue Jan 27, 2004 10:58 pm

FYI, orange or red lipstick would stain the skin, and get all over everything. Try a pan stick foundation with powder over it to give a matte finish. It works great on Kyra. (Now she knows who to come to for advice on makeup, hee hee).

XOXO, Amber

Beauty · Post by **Beauty** » Wed Jan 28, 2004 5:59 am

Hi!

That is very interesting that Lisa's idea would stain the skin.

Lisa do you do this? If you do, how do you get the makeup off and prevent staining.

I think the concealer stick and powder is the best idea. I don't use the heavy concealer anymore because of the laser hair removal I've had, but I felt it was still the best concealer when I had hair growing in. When I applied the powder my skin looked super smooth.

btw . . . tee hee hee

It wouldn't stain my skin.

:: runs ::

Beauty

S. Lisa Smith · Post by **S. Lisa Smith** » Wed Jan 28, 2004 5:15 pm

Hi, I have tried it in the past, but it didn't seem to work for me. It didn't stain my skin, I think that would depend on the brand (some stain the lips and some don't), whether or not you moisturize(you should anyway) and that would probably prevent staining. The concept is to not use a solid base, just use a small amout spread in lightly to get into the pores where the stubble is. The red orange cancels out the blue black of the stubble. People recommend using the cheapest lipstick you can find which probably doesn't have the deep color or the staying power of more expensive lipstick. I use a small amount of light olive beard cover from Ben Nye.

As an aside, my makeup washes right off with soap and water. If you were to use the "red lipstick method", I would imagine using cold cream or baby oil would be the way to remove it without staining.

Grae Phillips, the FI, recommends panstick as beard cover.

Marilyn · Post by **Marilyn** » Wed Jan 28, 2004 6:44 pm

I'm not sure about the Mary Kay suggestion. When I first realized that I wanted to go out en femme, I contact a rep. to get some initial coloring advice.

I figured it would work well, since this is what they do. And, while she helped me immensely, she kept impressing upon me how she wasn't supposed to be helping the client use the samples.

I didn't feel that it was because of who I was, but rather that Mary Kay had 'suggeted' that their reps not touch the clients.

Hugs.

S. Lisa Smith · Post by **S. Lisa Smith** » Wed Jan 28, 2004 9:51 pm

It's been many years since I have used a Mary Kay lady. Back then (or at least the one I used) had no problem showing/teaching me what to do. Maybe they have changed the rules. I have used Saphora and Merle Norman and both ladies applied the makeup, explained what they did and why they did it.

Beauty · Post by **Beauty** » Thu Jan 29, 2004 8:40 pm

Hi there,

I read about a cosmetics relationship that went bad.

The person outed the customer after they had an exchange of words. Then they were threatened by her family.

Odds of this happening again? Slim and none, but when I read about cosmetic people, I always think of that story. This is the first time I typed about it though.

Beauty

Alexandra · Post by **Alexandra** » Thu Jan 29, 2004 9:02 pm

Hopefully she went straight to the store director, then if needed, to an attorney's office.

Beauty · Post by **Beauty** » Thu Jan 29, 2004 9:09 pm

Hi Alexandra,

This person was closeted and was VERY fearful for her career. It was a bad, bad situation.

They didn't get a lawyer, they just got away from it.

She said she believed it was because her family found out and started calling her a sinner and ideological stuff like. She had been ok and then got mean and basically started the fight.

Beauty